Police officers guilty of assault get community service

**98tls** · 16th July 2010, 20:23

"emotional harm"

Whats that about?Anyone got a link to this with more info?Find it hard to believe they just pulled him over and decided to give him a hiding.

**scumdog** · 16th July 2010, 20:52

Originally Posted by jim.cox

Well fark me

Tow coppers assault a biker and just get community service

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...community-work

Was it a "Slap around the wrist with a wet bus ticket" judge

Or is it one law for us, one for them?

Given I know about the 'biker' the cops got penalised way too much.

So yes, as you mentioned - 'one law for us, one (tougher) for them.

**scumdog** · 16th July 2010, 20:53

Originally Posted by 98tls

"emotional harm"

Whats that about?Anyone got a link to this with more info?Find it hard to believe they just pulled him over and decided to give him a hiding.

They didn't.

**98tls** · 16th July 2010, 20:55

Originally Posted by scumdog

They didn't.

As i thought.Same old shite eh,KBs always good for only 1 side of the story when it comes to cops,actually when it comes to anything.

**crystalball** · 16th July 2010, 20:59

lol o.k i will delete that from my list to why not to speed.

**Headbanger** · 16th July 2010, 21:28

Originally Posted by 98tls

As i thought.Same old shite eh,KBs always good for only 1 side of the story when it comes to cops,actually when it comes to anything.

We can assume the judge was presented with both sides of the story and deduced that the cops broke the law.

Or do you believe the police should not be held accountable to the law?

**98tls** · 16th July 2010, 21:31

Originally Posted by Headbanger

We can assume the judge was presented with both sides of the story and deduced that the cops broke the law.

Or do you believe the police should not be held accountable to the law?

Actually mate ive no faith whatsoever in Judges.As no doubt do many cops.

**Headbanger** · 16th July 2010, 21:36

Originally Posted by 98tls

Actually mate ive no faith whatsoever in Judges.As no doubt do many cops.

Me either.

Lmfao.

We need a hanging judge.

**98tls** · 16th July 2010, 21:41

Originally Posted by Headbanger

Me either.

Lmfao.

We need a hanging judge.

pick me,im fucking shocking with knots

**98tls** · 16th July 2010, 21:46

"fuck Buck',bring this guy back.http://www.minehead-online.co.uk/judge.htm

**SS90** · 16th July 2010, 22:22

You know, I too see it as "two sides to every story", but while I have met some amazing cops who take their career "serving the public good" seriously, and deserve respects, I have unfortunately met more that are down right assholes (male and female cops), and on a massive ego trip.

Under the summary offences act, we have provision for Police officers to (in some cases) be Judge, and effect punishment "on the spot" (fines), which, most of the time is a good idea.

However, I have seen 2 seperate occasions where a group of cops have arrested a "drunk and disorderly" citizen, and, undeservedly administered a beating "ooops, sorry sir, didn't mean to bash your head on the car door etc", In one occassion I made an effort to track down the arrested guy (through a barman) to inform him that I would be willing to act as a witness if he wanted to lay a complaint with the Police complaint authority.

When i met up with the guy, he had a black eye, and an eye infection, he informed me that the black eye came from the cops, and the eye infection was because he wore contact lenses, and because they gave him the "knocking", an infection occured.

I wrote my statement for him, and he laid the complaint with the Police complaints authority.

2 months later (after he was interviewed) he was informed that the "complaint would go no further" (oh, the the disorderly conduct charge was withdrawn, after 2 court appearances costing him $900.

What did this guy do " as he was walking past a group of cops arresting some guy he said (and I quote) " Just do what the wankers want mate, they are the biggest gang in the country"

His lawer was going to use the "Crown V Dobbin" case where Dave Dobbin said "Don't worry about the cops, they are just wankers" at an Aotea square concert in (I think 1982), which (the Police claimed) caused a riot causing damage to shops.

The case was dismissed due to the Oxford dictionary defining a wanker as a "stupid person"

It's fair to say he would have got off (with a bill for 1000's), but I ask you, with more and more cases of Police assulting citizens (I remember a guy being Pepper sprayed AFTER he was on the ground and subdued) why aren't more cops losing their jobs.

( I have no trouble with cops "lack of attention" allowing rapists, P dealers, Pedophile's etc to "fall down the stairs") but, average tax paying citizens?

I have the utmost respect for most of the Police force, but there seem to be too many "bad apples" in the crate these days.

I also see it is illegal to film a Police officer "in the cause of his duties" if you are a member of the public....... I wonder why, I am sure the Police union say it is to protect the cops from retribution, but with the proliferation of cell phone cameras, every single misdeed is being recorded. As well it should.

If I see a copper "laying in" on someone who clearly does not deserve it, it's going on Youtube, and they are welcome to prosecute me.

**scumdog** · 16th July 2010, 22:28

Originally Posted by SS90

You know, I too see it as "two sides to every story", but while I have met some amazing cops who take their career "serving the public good" seriously, and deserve respects, I have unfortunately met more that are down right assholes (male and female cops), and on a massive ego trip.

Under the summary offences act, we have provision for Police officers to (in some cases) be Judge, and effect punishment "on the spot" (fines), which, most of the time is a good idea.

However, I have seen 2 seperate occasions where a group of cops have arrested a "drunk and disorderly" citizen, and, undeservedly administered a beating "ooops, sorry sir, didn't mean to bash your head on the car door etc", In one occassion I made an effort to track down the arrested guy (through a barman) to inform him that I would be willing to act as a witness if he wanted to lay a complaint with the Police complaint authority.

When i met up with the guy, he had a black eye, and an eye infection, he informed me that the black eye came from the cops, and the eye infection was because he wore contact lenses, and because they gave him the "knocking", an infection occured.

I wrote my statement for him, and he laid the complaint with the Police complaints authority.

2 months later (after he was interviewed) he was informed that the "complaint would go no further" (oh, the the disorderly conduct charge was withdrawn, after 2 court appearances costing him $900.

What did this guy do " as he was walking past a group of cops arresting some guy he said (and I quote) " Just do what the wankers want mate, they are the biggest gang in the country"

His lawer was going to use the "Crown V Dobbin" case where Dave Dobbin said "Don't worry about the cops, they are just wankers" at an Aotea square concert in (I think 1982), which (the Police claimed) caused a riot causing damage to shops.

The case was dismissed due to the Oxford dictionary defining a wanker as a "stupid person"

It's fair to say he would have got off (with a bill for 1000's), but I ask you, with more and more cases of Police assulting citizens (I remember a guy being Pepper sprayed AFTER he was on the ground and subdued) why aren't more cops losing their jobs.

( I have no trouble with cops "lack of attention" allowing rapists, P dealers, Pedophile's etc to "fall down the stairs") but, average tax paying citizens?

I have the utmost respect for most of the Police force, but there seem to be too many "bad apples" in the crate these days.

I also see it is illegal to film a Police officer "in the cause of his duties" if you are a member of the public....... I wonder why, I am sure the Police union say it is to protect the cops from retribution, but with the proliferation of cell phone cameras, every single misdeed is being recorded. As well it should.

If I see a copper "laying in" on someone who clearly does not deserve it, it's going on Youtube, and they are welcome to prosecute me.

I'm sure Ms Collins would like to hear how to avoid employing the cops such as you claim to have seen....but far nobody has found a way to make sure only 'good' cops are out there.

Me? In all my years I have not met any ego-tripping asshole cops, maybe I haven't got the gift of detecting them...

**scissorhands** · 16th July 2010, 23:14

Thing is you get bad ass everyones, mechanics, farmers, mums, dads, kids, landlords, tenants, cagers, bikers, grannies, the list goes on.

Cops will always cop it in the media though, because they are cops and it sells.

I have had nothing but good dealings with your average cop, even sometimes when I have been breaching the law...

Politeness and courtesy go a long way with most people, unless maybe you often do stupid shit like speeding with no lights on and risking lives of innocent others? Anyone who puts others at risk deserves what they get

.

**Headbanger** · 16th July 2010, 23:22

Originally Posted by scumdog

I'm sure Ms Collins would like to hear how to avoid employing the cops such as you claim to have seen....but far nobody has found a way to make sure only 'good' cops are out there.

We prosecute them when they break the law, This is a good thing. Sure, Plenty of em are getting away with crap but at least its something. More scrutiny will continue to raise the standards.

Originally Posted by scumdog

Me? In all my years I have not met any ego-tripping asshole cops, maybe I haven't got the gift of detecting them...

I'll give you that one.

**warewolf** · 16th July 2010, 23:47

Originally Posted by scumdog

I'm sure Ms Collins would like to hear how to avoid employing the cops such as you claim to have seen....but far nobody has found a way to make sure only 'good' cops are out there.

The problem is not so much stopping them at the door, but stopping them turning once they are immersed in the culture. I've spoken to many ex-cops who got out because of it.

And are you actually admitting, perhaps for the first time ever, that the cops are less than perfect??

Originally Posted by scumdog

Me? In all my years I have not met any ego-tripping asshole cops, maybe I haven't got the gift of detecting them...

Maybe you're part of the problem not the solution.