Are speed cameras, laser guns etc now illegal?

**Scuba_Steve** · 22nd July 2010, 15:41

I can on occasion find the attitude of P.I.G.'s threatening, does that count as assault???

And does anyone know for sure, are the projections from speed scamming devices safe??? As I've said I work with lasers and just cause you cannot see the light does NOT make it safe.

**Gubb** · 22nd July 2010, 18:35

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

What I really need to know is

How can shining a laser light on someone be considered "ASSAULT"

Because it's attached to A FUCKING GUN.

Perhaps you may have a case if Traffic Cops are Lasering at you while it's attached to a Glock. Until then, I think i'll start calling you"InterimDangerousBastard".

**Max Preload** · 22nd July 2010, 19:33

Originally Posted by Deano

That's all quite laughable dude. On this occasion I'm siding with the cops and the Judge. Case closed LOL

The dickhead is damn lucky the cops weren't armed, although he at least wouldn't have a conviction.....he'd be pushing up daisies.

What's laughable is that you don't have any answers to the questions I posed regarding your assumptions. If you were any more full of shit, you'd be a septic tank.

**Indiana_Jones** · 22nd July 2010, 19:41

Originally Posted by bogan

As rastucat says, assault is not just physical (battery), a gun pointed at you with a red dot certainly sounds threatening to me. Speed camera beams are undetectable (without electronics), therefor most definetely unthreating.

What one person considers a threat is a joke to another....

-Indy

**Indoo** · 22nd July 2010, 20:24

Originally Posted by Max Preload

What's laughable is that you don't have any answers to the questions I posed regarding your assumptions....

Do you actually want someone to answer those, you've already made yourself look like a complete tool and now you actually want someone to rub it in?

I think he was just being nice.

**MaxB** · 22nd July 2010, 21:18

The cops use an LTI 20/20 or a piece of shit Stalker LR unit for speed detection. Both work off LIDAR and use a infrared laser that is not visible. The eyepiece is usually an IR camera so the operator can see where the targeted area is. The ouput of the laser is limited by international safety standards.

The laser sight usually uses a laser diode in the visible red area. The beam is optimised to the operating range of the weapon. A larger spot is used for longer range devices so that the operator can sight the spot on the target from a distance.

If a small red spot about 4mm dia. appears on your jacket chances are its not a laser pointer.

**Rogue Rider** · 22nd July 2010, 21:24

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

good point, I had a mate done with "assault on a officer" for accidently shining a laser pointer into his eyes. That must mean the scamming devices are a form of assault right?

Aside from that is does make me question what tests have actually been done to prove these devises are safe to shine at people, I work alot with lasers & just because you cant see the light don't mean it aint gonna hurt/blind you. Invisible light can be dangerous even in short bursts

I wonder how it would go in court...... "I was driving along happily, when suddenly I lost sight vision though what I can only describe as a burning feeling in my eye. Next thing I find my self out of control struggling to see where I am going, and I end up crashing into a parked police vehicle with a policeman standing there pointing a lazer gun into my face............

**scumdog** · 22nd July 2010, 22:12

Originally Posted by Mr Merde

Correct me if I am wrong but dont most methods of guaging the speed of a moving vehicle involve shining a light upon it.

By this ruling then those persons shining the light are now guilty of assault.

I'll let you know the first time I see any speed detection device that shines a light on the target. (Except for the flash on a speed camera)

**scumdog** · 22nd July 2010, 22:14

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

I wonder how it would go in court...... "I was driving along happily, when suddenly I lost sight vision though what I can only describe as a burning feeling in my eye. Next thing I find my self out of control struggling to see where I am going, and I end up crashing into a parked police vehicle with a policeman standing there pointing a lazer gun into my face............

What a load of codswollop......blinded by a cops laser gun, as-if!

**The Pastor** · 22nd July 2010, 22:31

If anyone comes into my place at night un invited, I would do the same thing. Police or not police.

Its cases like this that make me wish we had better home invasion / self defense laws in NZ.

No one can touch my stuff without my permission, especially my bike.

I don't see what the guy did wrong, it was dark and he defended his home, he identified the intruder as police and put down his weapon.

Now one assumption im going to make about this story is the guy was pretty drunk, home late at night and smashing his window... don't think a sober person would do that?

**Max Preload** · 22nd July 2010, 23:46

Originally Posted by Indoo

Do you actually want someone to answer those, you've already made yourself look like a complete tool and now you actually want someone to rub it in?

I think he was just being nice.

You're just another fuckwit who's too scared to reply because your argument has no merit.

**Indiana_Jones** · 23rd July 2010, 08:17

Originally Posted by renegade master

If anyone comes into my place at night un invited, I would do the same thing. Police or not police.

Its cases like this that make me wish we had better home invasion / self defense laws in NZ.

No one can touch my stuff without my permission, especially my bike.

I don't see what the guy did wrong, it was dark and he defended his home, he identified the intruder as police and put down his weapon.

Now one assumption im going to make about this story is the guy was pretty drunk, home late at night and smashing his window... don't think a sober person would do that?

Bad boy...

You do what the nice police tell you to do, ring them and wait for 3 hours for the taxi to turn up....

-Indy

**DEATH_INC.** · 23rd July 2010, 08:47

Originally Posted by scumdog

(Except for the flash on a speed camera)

AHA! I'll try that one next time

**Pixie** · 23rd July 2010, 08:54

Originally Posted by renegade master

Good thing he didnt flick the lights on, with all that powerful light hurting the police.

It was the Ginga Cop.
He's got very sensitive pink skin ya know

**Scuba_Steve** · 23rd July 2010, 09:23

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

I wonder how it would go in court...... "I was driving along happily, when suddenly I lost sight vision though what I can only describe as a burning feeling in my eye. Next thing I find my self out of control struggling to see where I am going, and I end up crashing into a parked police vehicle with a policeman standing there pointing a lazer gun into my face............

might be worth a try right? at the very least there'd be one less scammer on the road for a couple weeks