www plumbing question - how does this work

[Big Dave]

or not work?

Currently If I go to
http://www.kiwirider.co.nz/index.html
it displays old pages. Todd and Chris Birch.

but if I go to (sans www)
http://kiwirider.co.nz/index.html
it's updated and showing as it should - shows the correct files locally and in server HTDocs folder.

Server plumbing awry and reading a cache from somewhere?

[phill-k]

who the fuck cares?

[Big Dave]

who the fuck cares?

well lets see - there are about 400 sessions per day on the site currently. Some of them would appreciate the update.

Me, cause I'd like to understand it without wading through pages of google.

And perhaps someone who would like to show their cleverness by explaining it all succinctly.

Lets call it 400.

Edit: nah that's over ambitious - say 150 for cruiser news.

[sinned]

Well I would like to understand what has occurred here.

Could only geeks who know about this shit reply? Probably asking too much!

[Gremlin]

The records for the domain seem to be correct, both the A record and the www records pointing to 207.57.66.47. This is for typing www in front of the domain, or not. This means at least it is looking at the same server for the website.

Now, on the hosting end, it needs to be checked that the host server is not sending the two requests to different places (bit grey here, I don't deal with this at all).

By FTP or SSH'ing into the server, you should be able to see if the files match each other, if they do, its the same place (a good thing). - come to think of it... I don't think this would make any difference, and probably couldn't go to two different places, with records correct etc.

Then, when was the website updated? It is possible there is caching, where the caching is, is a much bigger question. I doubt it would be the hosting server, but your ISP could quite possibly be caching, again, what time frame are we talking about.

Then there is always the old question, is the host having any problems in the background that might not be immediately apparent?

edit: where are the differences, they look the same to me?

[Big Dave]

Both files match - local and on server in the HTDocs folder. FTP all good.

First noticed about an hour ago.

Local machine cache cleared.

Site is on Domainz and their phones are busy.

[Big Dave]

Even weirderer Gremlin.

At this end -

In the www version it has a picture of todd and chris birch in the main frame

without www it shows a Harley in said frame - same in three different browsers

Some sort of server caching is my guess.

[vindy500]

Even weirderer Gremlin.

At this end -

In the www version it has a picture of todd and chris birch in the main frame

without www it shows a Harley in said frame - same in three different browsers

Some sort of server caching is my guess.

same from my computer

[Big Dave]

same from my computer

Cheers - Which one are you getting? Pic of a Harley?

I guess that would point to my ISP rather than the site hosting too.

[vindy500]

Cheers - Which one are you getting? Pic of a Harley?

I guess that would point to my ISP rather than the site hosting too.

sorry, I meant I'm having the same problem you are, seeing the two different pictures :/

[Big Dave]

Cool thanks - another discovery - if I take the '/index.html' off the URL it works fine.

[Ronin]

I get the harley on both pages using Orcon. You could try changing your DNS and seeing if it's ISP caching

[Big Dave]

I get the harley on both pages using Orcon. You could try changing your DNS and seeing if it's ISP caching

Yeah - I'm back to that line after seeing that the extension is doing it.

[Gremlin]

All sorted then?

edit: what ISP are you using?

[Mort]

could be caching on your ISP proxy. Disconnect your modem (switch it off) then restart. It should clear.