Aftermarket wheels for new National SUPERBIKE rules

[gixerracer]

Wot a crok of shit when buying spare rims you buy2nd hand of ebat etc can get a set for any bike landed in nz 4 a grand.

There is way too much to answer in this post BUT I will make one point....check out the list price for standard rims from Kawasaki (as I know this brand) and then tell me the CARROZZERIA rims are too expensive! I would hazzard a guess that many stock rims are MORE EXPENSIVE than the racers deal my main sponsor is prepared to do. In fact Choppa has already come out and said it is a better option for him to buy CARROZZERIA wheels than stock. I can't talk for other wheel manufacturers but I know Rodd has put a fair margin on the wheels and he is here for the fun of it...not to make massive profits. He is a person we should be encouraging to participate in this sport through product involvement.

Also, aftermarket wheels may not be hign on your priority list but they certainly are on mine (for obvious reasons) but I think in the 'open' classes people should be allowed to choose where they spend there budget.

[Mental Trousers]

Since when was racing a bike in the classes that one would buy aftermarket rims supposed to be cheap,its not like anybody would need to buy a new set every season there as strong as hell.Not having a crack MT but staying competitive costs i would have thought and considering the difference made by the rims surely justified.

Staying competitive in any class is expensive. But without lightweight wheels the bar isn't anywhere near as high.

So would you not have spare wheels?

If you went with lightweight wheels you'd have to have a couple of sets. Mainly cos you have to change your suspension to suit the lower sprung weight so you couldn't really use standard wheels for spares. You can't really mix lightweight wheels with standard ones without ballsing up your suspension setup.

[Biggles08]

If you went with lightweight wheels you'd have to have a couple of sets. Mainly cos you have to change your suspension to suit the lower sprung weight so you couldn't really use standard wheels for spares. You can't really mix lightweight wheels with standard ones without ballsing up your suspension setup.

Bullshit....sorry MT but you don't know what your talking about here as I have been doing EXACTLY that for last years racing. While you could 'dial in' some more advantages by changing your suspension setup, it is not prohibitive to interchange from standard to lighter weight wheels.

sorry for being blunt but I have had 3 wines now...heeheee

[gixerracer]

Well that is the dumbest thing you have said so far and that list is getting longer by the second biggles of course you need to make pretty big changes maybe not at your speed but we are not all that slow sorry

Bullshit....sorry MT but you don't know what your talking about here as I have been doing EXACTLY that for last years racing. While you could 'dial in' some more advantages by changing your suspension setup, it is not prohibitive to interchange from standard to lighter weight wheels.

sorry for being blunt but I have had 3 wines now...heeheee

[Biggles08]

Wot a crok of shit when buying spare rims you buy2nd hand of ebat etc can get a set for any bike landed in nz 4 a grand.

You are 100% correct my sand dwelling friend BUT someone had to buy those rims brand new at some stage...lets see what happens in a couple of years IF this rule goes ahead...I think you may find a few second hand CARROZZERIA rims available on tardme.

Besides, ask Robert Taylor about people buying second hand (or brand new for that matter) products off ebay and comparing them to NZ based importers...its not a fair comparison as My sponsor needs to charge GST etc and cannot legally put "Gift" on the import papers. apples for apples

[Biggles08]

Well that is the dumbest thing you have said so far biggles of course you need to make pretty big changes maybe not at you speed but we are not all that slow sorry

Its a simple case of lighter wheels (unsprung weight) makes your suspension work more effectively. And I disagree...I have said far dumber things in the past!

[Mental Trousers]

Bullshit....sorry MT but you don't know what your talking about here as I have been doing EXACTLY that for last years racing. While you could 'dial in' some more advantages by changing your suspension setup, it is not prohibitive to interchange from standard to lighter weight wheels.

sorry for being blunt but I have had 3 wines now...heeheee

All good man. At least you're not like me when I've had a few, ie start banning people or putting them in Pink Hell for a laugh

Advice I've had is contrary to your experience. Until I try it I'm not really qualified to say. For now I'll have to go with the best advice and say you're either mad or hard.

[Biggles08]

All good man. At least you're not like me when I've had a few, ie start banning people or putting them in Pink Hell for a laugh

Advice I've had is contrary to your experience. Until I try it I'm not really qualified to say. For now I'll have to go with the best advice and say you're either mad or hard.

four red wines now (shhhhhh don't tell Robert Taylor)....does that make me hard?

I would say you need to try em to understand em!

[gixerracer]

You are 100% correct my sand dwelling friend BUT someone had to buy those rims brand new at some stage...lets see what happens in a couple of years IF this rule goes ahead...I think you may find a few second hand CARROZZERIA rims available on tardme.

Besides, ask Robert Taylor about people buying second hand (or brand new for that matter) products off ebay and comparing them to NZ based importers...its not a fair comparison as My sponsor needs to charge GST etc and cannot legally put "Gift" on the import papers. apples for apples

Thats his problem fact is we can buy stuff from the net for fuck all and this rule change is so stupid that I suggest we all as riders in the class make a stand and none of us use them to make it fair for the guy's trying to chase us

[Kickaha]

Thats his problem fact is we can buy stuff from the net for fuck all and this rule change is so stupid that I suggest we all as riders in the class make a stand and none of us use them to make it fair for the guy's trying to chase us

It's not hard to catch someone when they're off the track playing in a sandtrap

[Biggles08]

It's not hard to catch someone when they're off the track playing in a sandtrap

HAAAAAAHAAAAAA....fuckin...HAAAAAAHAAAAA.....oh shit I just shit myself!

[CHOPPA]

Staying competitive in any class is expensive. But without lightweight wheels the bar isn't anywhere near as high.



If you went with lightweight wheels you'd have to have a couple of sets. Mainly cos you have to change your suspension to suit the lower sprung weight so you couldn't really use standard wheels for spares. You can't really mix lightweight wheels with standard ones without ballsing up your suspension setup.

Na ill just use the standard set for wet, have to change the bike set up for wet anyway.

[Biggles08]

Na ill just use the standard set for wet, have to change the bike set up for wet anyway.

Well that's the dumbest thing I've heard you say so far......ummmm.....shit, lost it!

[CHOPPA]

Thats his problem fact is we can buy stuff from the net for fuck all and this rule change is so stupid that I suggest we all as riders in the class make a stand and none of us use them to make it fair for the guy's trying to chase us

I think the top 5 from each class last year should take a stand and let the rest of us run what we brung so we can get a sniff....

[CHOPPA]

Superbike rules are out! Seems we can NOT use aftermarket wheels, no aftermarket triple clamps, no Traction Control unless its standard id say.

We can use diff pistons which is interesting