250 gp bikes for f3

[dave o]

dunno if you guys have seen this before.
this is part 1, links to part 2 after. some good ol' tz250 action. vs rc30 and rocket ron on his 500 and the norton rotary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVVoHKlbN1Q

[satchriossi]

AWESOME. How ruthlessly fast was the 500!?

[codgyoleracer]

Assuming your talking about the commission member that put the idea of 250gp machinery in F3,You should also know that person wanted the rules relaxed around the air intakes of the 650s and was denied

Ahh, Yes I know........ - that was one of a number of suggestions made if the GP250 idea was going to be floored originally. Now i wonder who that was...........

[lostinflyz]

I wouldn't mind knowing how much the owner wants for it even though its bound to be way more than i can afford... These seem to be fetching mega money whenever they come up for sale. I'm hoping that once the Irish ban them from their road racing championships a load of NX5s and NXAs will come up for sale relatively cheapish. *Fingers crossed*.

Thanks for the graphs Ozzy, those are some strong motors!

i know the NW200 no longer has a 250 class and its only a couple of years before they go else where. There has been quite a few nx5's and a couple of nxa's on ebay over the last 9-10 months.

[crazy man]

Assuming your talking about the commission member that put the idea of 250gp machinery in F3,You should also know that person wanted the rules relaxed around the air intakes of the 650s and was denied

what for 2 hp more lol

[jasonu]

749R and a 250 GP bike are probably pretty well matched , so i suppose if ones in then why not the other ?. Now how do i shoehorn that Duke mota into that frame.......... :-)

Yes, and let the hot rod 600/4's in and call it F2 (no disrespect intended)

[RDjase]

Bu&&er, I should have paitented the idea......

The way I see it is this:
Postie racing is all about looking like the period right? Now i know RDJase thinks all the plastic covered bikes look the same (He said so this time last year).
SO, what do we do?? We get all the classic style of motorcycle and chuck them in with Faired bikes. Looks a bit od a shambles, and people are scrambling through their programmes to work out who is who, and what is what, and why are sooo many different looking bikes all racing together?? Is this Clubmans?? ..... I think you get the idea.

SO, why not run Pre 82, Pre72 etc in the same class... and yes, I believe more would find their way out there if there weren't this "Plastic" bikes on the grid....
And a seperate class for Pre 95 and Pre 89.... TBH, they almost look the same...
To keep in the spirit, ZX636 Farings will still be a no go..... Sorry Neil

The Major difference started in 1996 IMHO with the GSXR750T. Then the rest followed. The Next mile stone was 2003 with the CBR600RR.... Course i'm talking Japanese here, as that is what I know.... But argubuly they lead the market anyway....

Just my 10 cents worth... Comments?

+1 !

I could race my 95 Duke Monster too

There are alot of Postie racers with a pre82 AND a Pre89 bike.

The new proposed changes to the 350 2stroke sound good. I havnt done many Vic Club rounds as my LC350 can only do one class, yet 1/2 the postie feild is pre89 bikes I race with any way.

[RDjase]

You club rep what is going to the MNZ meeting to vote on it.

So ignoring the GP bikes,
An RGV taken to 300 apparently pull 70, . . . while the crank & gearbox last. Hard to take them any further. That should make them sort of competitive. The only 350 is the poor old RZ & it will pull 70hp if tuned right, but need a decent chassis or all for naught. VS a top handling modern bike with more kilos but a wide spread of more power.

They would need free reign on chassis.

The RZ is a great engine and cheap to repair, New cranks are $600.

It makes sense to allow the use of Yamahagammas, Kwakaha's and TZR350's in F3, and most of these bikes can race on Pre89 as well

The RZ frame is just to old and heavy to be competitive

Top marks to MNZ for getting the proposed rules happening, Just about right IMHO

Submission writting time now

[RDjase]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...n-before-July-!

Submissions only have till the end of June to be in !

[RDjase]

The rules are out

http://nzsbk.blogspot.com/2010/07/su...ions-2011.html

400 2 Stroke

No GP bikes

[Yow Ling]

Mine is coming along slowly

[k14]

The rules are out

http://nzsbk.blogspot.com/2010/07/su...ions-2011.html

400 2 Stroke

No GP bikes

The perfect result, now we might see some crazy bastard try get a RD400 running in a better frame!

[RDjase]

The perfect result, now we might see some crazy bastard try get a RD400 running in a better frame!

Just stretch a RZ engine, lots of goodies available for them, handy there the same engine as a banshee

Skunk will be able to race his RD400 powered ZXR250

[scracha]

The perfect result, now we might see some crazy bastard try get a RD400 running in a better frame!

Hmm...does "production based" mean that engine swaps can be done? If so an NSR400 engine in RGV250 frame sounds like a plan.

Oh well....that's the hordes who've spent lots of money big boring their 400 4's fucked.

[RDjase]

Hmm...does "production based" mean that engine swaps can be done? If so an NSR400 engine in RGV250 frame sounds like a plan.

Oh well....that's the hordes who've spent lots of money big boring their 400 4's fucked.

The proposed rules said that 350 2T MUST use original frame and swing arm, which means RZ350 is tha latest bike you could use. The new rules have no mention of using original frames so repowers of any sort are allowed? There are a few repowered bikes out racing anyway
The rules sort of read as long as it has production cases and a production bike you can fit what ever engine into any frame

Will ask MNZ when it is on there site

Have you got a NSR engine and a RGV ? be a nice combo