Ebay vs Trade me

[doc]

Well I've just purchased a sidestand today.

Both new
Trademe was NZ$407.00 not including courier

Ebay was NZ$ 79.00 including UPS shipping

You would have to wouldn't ya. It was just a friggen sidestand

[Jantar]

Globlism... will kill local markets... and will continue to do so...

If the NZ market buys from the same place you do they have to put a mark up on else what is the point...

The one thing is if you buy in NZ you still have the gurantee of the NZ consumers act etc... buy off eBay and you have nothing

Absolutely correct. And that is why I'm [prepared to buy from New Zealand suppliers and pay a premium for it. The big question though is "How much premium should I pay?"

I look at it this way: The New Zealand retailer can buy from the same place I do, and then has to pay GST (15% from Oct). Onto this he needs to add a markup (lets say 25%). His shipping costs should be similar or cheaper. From this I'm happy to pay 40 - 50% more to get the item here in New Zealand. I'll still consider it at up to 100% more, but once it is over 100% markup then I'll buy from EBay.

My most recent experience came when I needed new ink cartridges for my printer. Both black and magenta were low, so I went into Dick Smith to buy a full set. Shock and horror when I found out that the black was around $36 and the colours were over $28 each. That made it $149 for the set. They didn't have the multi pack that Cannon claim were available at a cheaper price than buying individually. As a result I only bought the black and magenta and decided to get the others as needed.

Once I got home I decided to see if I could get the full set direct from Cannon. Sure enough the Cannon website did list the set at a much cheaper RRP, but didn't sell direct. Instead they would point to the enarest approved retailer. Next I checked EBay, and sure enough the inks were available from a number of reatailers. I purchased a complete set which arrived a few days later. The cost? Would you believe US$17.50 for the lot. Once postage was added on that was the complete set, black and 4 colours for NZ$38 delivered to my mailbox.

So $38 from EBay, $149 from Dick Smith: That is much more than the 100% mark up I would consider reasonable.

[Strider]

I have got all my bike parts from ebay/ USA and with the exhange rate at the moment.
I get goods over seas for alot cheaper than what they sell here for the same parts. Even after I and P&P plus the fees charged on credit card it still works out cheaper. I got a pair of cobra passanger floor boards and save over $100 bucks NZ on them. Sweet

[vindy500]

most the guys on trade me are just chinese guys buying it from ebay anyway

[paulmac:Me]

You (op) should bring in a container of them and make your fortune .....!

[Hailwood]

There are many threads here about buying locally vs Ebay..I can only go on my dealings with ebay.....When I owned the Harley, I have purchased several parts on Ebay direct from dealers and found that the cost to me was usually half that charged by my local dealer. Having said that, I did visit my local dealer with a price and he was good enough to bring his price down so that the difference wasnt so great.

If you talk to your local dealer and give them a chance, maybe they can do something for you. If not, then at least you tried............

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

paypal has a reasonable trading policy and refund service

Does it give product guarantee... ??? NZ consumers act gives right of return with in (I believe 7 days) and a few other bits and pieces...

[CHR1S]

Having worked in cage parts for a number of years 70% is nothing. The worst part I managed to come across was a clutch release bearing with a cost of $4.50 with a retail of $110....worse still, a few had been sold. I imagine bike parts (especially genuine) are no exception!

So yeah for the hassle/costs involved running even an online only store (probably has a day job aswell) it'd be safe to say the guys making f all per unit..all the best to him, and caveat emptor to those who cut him out and go direct.

[avgas]

bearing with a cost of $4.50 with a retail of $110....worse still, a few had been sold. I imagine bike parts (especially genuine) are no exception!

All engine bearings for RG150 - just shy of $800.
Made did the lot using F&P sourced bearings for $50.

[awayatc]

I buy a lot on trademe
I buy a lot on E-bay...
I get more often dicked around on trademe then on e-bay.
I get my products quicker from e-bay then from within NZ.....
Oh and I am getting them a fair bit cheaper on e-bay....
I don't mind supporting local business if they make an effort to be competitive..
(price/service/professionalism etc....)

But to sponsor lazy c*nts just because they live in the same country.....?
Thats where i am already getting taxed to death for.....

I Can't afford to be that generous ....

Nor do I chose to...

[DR650gary]

I buy a lot on trademe
I buy a lot on E-bay...
I get more often dicked around on trademe then on e-bay.
I get my products quicker from e-bay then from within NZ.....
Oh and I am getting them a fair bit cheaper on e-bay....
I don't mind supporting local business if they make an effort to be competitive..
(price/service/professionalism etc....)

But to sponsor lazy c*nts just because they live in the same country.....?
Thats where i am already getting taxed to death for.....

I Can't afford to be that generous ....

Nor do I chose to...

What he said

Product on Ebay $AU0.99 plus postage $AU5.99. Identical product on Trademe (even the logo) $29.00 plus postage $6.99.

Heated Grips on Ebay $US1.99 plus $US2.99 postage, Trademe $25.00 plus postage. I bought 6 sets for myself and mates.

I have had products from O/seas that were substandard and to be honest, their after sales remedies were fairer and faster than local.

Happy to support local traders but not at these levels.

I recently ordered a dual set of throttle cable for my Kawasaki. Only 1 arrived as they are no longer stocked. The dealer was unimpressed when I declined to take the single cable as all aftermarket sets were in pairs and I didn't need three cables. NZ price for 1 was $59.00. A set delivered from the UK $77.00 total.

[SS90]

hey, ive been trawling the net looking for candidates for new levers for me bike and ive found this cool site called ebay. ..........ahem

would you believe my suprise when i found a supplier selling biker levers for under 100 bucks inc shipping from china. the EXACT same levers are on trade me from a kiwi supplier for 170 bucks plus pnp.

They are described as being as good as Pazzo, they look cool. and the trade me site has heaps of info on them.

Buy NZ??????????..........................I dont bloody think so!

Wow, it is amazing how this often slagged out has progressed from "NZ bike shops ripping us off, Trademe rules (etc)

to "Trademe is a rip off, Ebay rules"

I wonder, is the average Kiwi attitude so crap that people actually will soon think that unless goods are free ( or perhaps we are given a small financial incentive to take goods off traders hands), traders should be put to death.

Can we talk about Lawyers, residential property investors and real estate agents? When it comes to unreasonable fees for services and goods, these people are the scum, not retailers competing in a global market.

[awayatc]

Attitude............?


My prescription glasses in NZ are NZ $900
Same glasses of Internet from old US of A are NZ $180 delivered to my frontdoor within a week....

I never had the luxury to be able to afford an attitude....
To busy paying family bills....

[EJK]

I shop at Pak'n Save all the time.


All good!






Well, it's only bike parts. It's not like the whole NZ economy will collapse & dollar slump cause some people bought bike parts from overseas.

Eat more lambs, drink more L&P and shop at Pak'n Save more to balance it out.

[brp]

I'm with Rapid ! If you have imported products from China you know the prices - unbelievably cheap. Obviously still plenty of demand for products where sellers on trade me are making large profits - over 1000% common.

Low risk buying off the site Sam copied from power sellers, best thing you can do rapid is what you are doing - vote with your dollar and buy elsewhere