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    Dead bikers more at fault than truckers

    Below is excerpted from p80 of just released study "alcohol and other drug use in NZ drivers 2004-9" from Police/ESR. Why the bike/train crashes when under no influence...???????

    174 of the 1,046 deceased drivers (17%) were riding motorbikes. Again this seems
    high in relation to the numbers of motorbikes and cars using the roads. Single vehicle
    crashes accounted for 62 of the deceased motorcyclists. For 60 of these crashes the
    motorcyclist was determined to be at fault. In the two cases where the rider was not at
    fault, one was found too much later to determine if there were other influences
    involved and the other was hit by a tree branch. There were 112 crashes in which the
    motorcyclist struck another vehicle. 66 of these crashes (59%) were determined to be
    the fault of the motorcyclist.


    The crashes analysed in this study include 560 multiple vehicle crashes in which 586
    drivers died. The other 460 drivers were killed in single vehicle crashes. In 18 of the
    560 multiple vehicle crashes (3%) the ‘other’ vehicle, the vehicle not being driven by
    the deceased, was a train.

    In 175 of the 560 multiple vehicle crashes (31%) the ‘other’ vehicle was a truck. This
    seems high in relation to the observed relative numbers of trucks and cars on the road.
    In 29 of these crashes the surviving truck driver was determined to be at fault for the
    crash, using the Responsibility Analysis Guidelines. It therefore follows that in 146
    crashes, the deceased driver accidently placed themself in the path of a truck, a
    vehicle with poor ability to manoeuvre or stop quickly.

    In 52 of the 1,020 crashes (5%) the deceased was driving a truck. 28 of these crashes
    were single vehicle crashes and 24 were multiple vehicle crashes. Following the
    Responsibility Analysis Guidelines the truck driver was found to be at fault in 25 of
    the 28 single vehicle crashes. In the remaining three crashes, one situation was
    unclear (it may have been driving or vehicle conditions that influenced the crash), one
    driver was trying to avoid a pedestrian and the other was driving a truck that had
    brake failure. For the 24 multiple vehicle crashes where the truck driver died, 12 were
    determined to be at fault for the crash.

    Alcohol and drug

    There were 174 fatal crashes in which the deceased was riding a motorbike, 17% of
    all the crashes considered in this study. 55% of the motorbike riders (95 of 174) had
    no alcohol or other drugs in their blood. This is slightly higher than the proportion of
    all unimpaired drivers in this study (Table 49). In the 18 fatal crashes involving trains,
    only three had used a possibly impairing drug. (p101)

    The proportion of those on motorbikes who had used cannabis and alcohol together or
    some other combination of drugs, was not greatly different from the proportion for all
    drivers. Alcohol was not used as much by the motorbike riders (8%), compared with
    alcohol use by all of the deceased drivers (13%). Cannabis was used more often by
    those riding motorbikes (13% compared with 9.2% for all drivers in this study who
    used only cannabis). The ratio of all crashes to motorbike crashes is 6: 1.
    Table 50 gives the number of crashes involving motorbikes and trains where the
    drivers have used drugs other than alcohol or cannabis. The ratio for opioid use
    crashes is 4.8: 1 indicating a higher proportion of opioid use in motorbike riders.

    A similar ratio (4.9: 1) was obtained for motorbike riders using stimulants. The ratio for
    crashes involving sedative use was 7.8: 1, indicating a lower proportion of sedative
    use (Table 50).

    Summary
    The significance of the involvement of drug use in relation to fatal crashes in the
    different Police districts will need a more detailed analysis than is possible with the
    data available in this study.
    If the time of day of the crash, or the type of road on which a crash occurs, are
    considered, there is a variation in the proportion of drivers using alcohol and other
    drugs compared with all deceased drivers. Alcohol use, with or without other drugs is
    more prevalent at night time (six pm to six am). Cannabis use alone and use of other
    potentially impairing drugs is found in a higher proportion of drivers killed during day
    time (six am to six pm). Alcohol use only is found in a higher proportion of drivers
    killed on state highways and other rural roads.
    Drug use other than alcohol or cannabis is minimal.

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    Who the f* wrote that piece of crap?

    Why can't they use simpler and easier-to-understand representation with bulletpoints, tables, and graphs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Who the f* wrote that piece of crap?

    Why can't they use simpler and easier-to-understand representation with bulletpoints, tables, and graphs?
    A dusting of icing sugar isn't likely to make the taste of Awful Truth any more palatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    A dusting of icing sugar isn't likely to make the taste of Awful Truth any more palatable.
    Not the point.
    These so-called "analysts/researchers/academics/consultants" paid high taxpayers' dollars spewing unreadable piece needs to be drawn and quartered.

    At least make the damn piece readable, ffs.

    This piece of workmanshits are really giving us consultants a bad name...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Who the f* wrote that piece of crap?
    The thread starter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Why can't they use simpler and easier-to-understand representation with bulletpoints, tables, and graphs?
    They did:

    http://www.moh.govt.nz/notebook/nbbo...ivers 2010.pdf
    Last edited by Virago; 12th August 2010 at 20:47.
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    Cant see anything wrong with that , it should mirror the AA s report the other day

    Seems that we arent so good on our own , and not to bad using another vehicle

    though my gut feeling and years of " sorry mate didnt see you " has me a bit reserved on the numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot View Post
    Who the f* wrote that piece of crap?

    Why can't they use simpler and easier-to-understand representation with bulletpoints, tables, and graphs?
    Prolly paid by the word... (or syllable)

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    Didn't you know that 96.48% of statistics are made up on the spot?

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