Islamisation

**mashman** · 20th August 2010, 10:11

"A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man's spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralysing him, the brother of the victim says.

Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralysed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in north-western Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told AP by telephone from Saudi Arabia.

He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded saying it was possible to damage the spinal cord, but the operation had to be done at a more specialised facility. Saudi newspapers reported on Thursday a second hospital in the capital, Riyadh, declined, saying it could not inflict such harm."

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/7...is-punishment/

dunno wether I like the idea or not

but it certainly has merit. Something Europe might have to get used to lol...

**avgas** · 20th August 2010, 11:01

Originally Posted by marie_speeds

The answers quite simple don't buy any more farken kebabs....

Cook me something better then.

**george formby** · 20th August 2010, 11:12

This thread is about migratory changes in Europe & the paranoia, fear & debate which has stemmed from it but world wide exactly the same thing is happening, culturally more so than religion. In coming decades the good old US of A will be a predominantly Spanish speaking nation due to the constant & massive immigration from South America, (mainly Catholic with lots of kids) they are fighting a war on drugs because of this rather than a war on faith. Asia is demonstrating the largest migration in our neck of the woods, the fight here is cultural & economic. John Key has advocated the teaching of Mandarin in schools & why not? We certainly can't beat them, so might as well join them.
Like it or not, the world order is changing but Islam will not become the great oppressor. The very privileges available in Europe which the immigrants want are to a great extent against the teachings of Islam. I think more likely that in time the hard line teachings will be diluted to keep the faith in business as has happened to Christianity. Same s#!t, different name.

**Oscar** · 20th August 2010, 11:25

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Wrong country. Yasser Arafat was a Palestinian, not Lebanese.

Lebanon is not a "muslim" country as such. It has fallen foul of its superpower neighbour to the south on a couple of occasions. Generally the Yids aren't that respectful of their neighbours when they harbour terrorist groups like Hezbollah. Lebanon has had the shit bombed out of it on a couple of occasions, but its economy is pretty strong and it generally recovers.

I think he's referring to the fact that, after being kicked out of Jordan (for an attempted coup), the PLO moved to Lebanon. This was the primary reason that the Israelis invaded.

**george formby** · 20th August 2010, 11:30

Originally Posted by Oscar

I think he's referring to the fact that, after being kicked out of Jordan (for an attempted coup), the PLO moved to Lebanon. This was the primary reason that the Israelis invaded.

Ah, Beirut. The muezzin calling the faithful to prayer with RPG's. Home to some of the finest Roman ruins in existence pre & post Christianity. 2000 years & still knocking the snot out of each other in the same ring.

**Bald Eagle** · 20th August 2010, 11:34

Originally Posted by george formby

2000 years & still knocking the snot out of each other in the same ring.

You'd think they could get along after all that time ...

**george formby** · 20th August 2010, 11:35

Originally Posted by Bald Eagle

You'd think they could get along after all that time ...

I live in hope

**Oscar** · 20th August 2010, 11:39

Originally Posted by george formby

Ah, Beirut. The muezzin calling the faithful to prayer with RPG's. Home to some of the finest Roman ruins in existence pre & post Christianity. 2000 years & still knocking the snot out of each other in the same ring.

To be fair, the stoush is usually started by Johnny Foreigner - Greeks, Romans, Turks, Crusaders, Arabs, French, British, Palestinians, Israelis, Americans, Syrians and lately Iranians...

**MisterD** · 20th August 2010, 11:46

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Countries that have mature secular states should not be threatened by these advances, particularly if secularism is part of their constitution.

I think only the French have that secularism in their constitution...the UK doesn't even have a single-document constitution. Both countries certainly do have huge problems with isolationist muslim communities in places like Luton and Oldham actively working to promote things like shariah law locally before pushing it on a national scale.

I don't know why, but intelligent, rational people who are happy to bag the Christians for their loony beliefs pull down the PC hatches and hide when it comes to confronting the medieval thinking of islamists (using Desert Gerbil's definition here).

Hospitals brought in sensible rules to prevent the spread of "super bugs" which included bare forearms so that cloth sleeves couldn't be a carrier of infection. The muslims complained it was "indecent" or somesuch according to their religion and got an exemption! WTF? We're going to contradict modern science and put patients lives at risk because of some religious god-bothery that we're too stupid or frightened to confront?

**george formby** · 20th August 2010, 11:49

Originally Posted by Oscar

To be fair, the stoush is usually started by Johnny Foreigner - Greeks, Romans, Turks, Crusaders, Arabs, French, British, Palestinians, Israelis, Americans, Syrians and lately Iranians...

Exacary, the point of the thread. The to-ing & fro-ing of nations, beliefs & commerce.

General question. If you accept that their are a huge number of people being displaced around the world for whatever reason. In coming decades which will prevail, religion (take your pick) or economics (eg.Sony, Nokia, BP etc)?

**Paul in NZ** · 20th August 2010, 12:07

Originally Posted by MisterD

Hospitals brought in sensible rules to prevent the spread of "super bugs" which included bare forearms so that cloth sleeves couldn't be a carrier of infection. The muslims complained it was "indecent" or somesuch according to their religion and got an exemption! WTF? We're going to contradict modern science and put patients lives at risk because of some religious god-bothery that we're too stupid or frightened to confront?

Yeah - that sort of stuff is just plain dumb...

While there are people who won't accept blood transfusions because of religious beliefs it is only their own lives (or their childrens) they risk... The answer is to provide a seperate facility but - whos going to pay for that????

Sigh - I give up... Let the mouth foaming radicals on both sides have the bloody lot, I'm finishing my spaceship in the back yard and then I'm outta here...

**Reckless** · 20th August 2010, 12:10

Well we got to 100 posts without the thread turning to a shit fight!!

Very mature! Congrats to all Kiwibikers LOL!!!

**Paul in NZ** · 20th August 2010, 12:26

Originally Posted by Reckless

Well we got to 100 posts without the thread turning to a shit fight!!

Very mature! Congrats to all Kiwibikers LOL!!!

How dare you congratulate anyone during the lunar solstice of the camshaft goddess's third moon you heathen overheadcamshaft worshiping swine - Its highly insulting to all us Pushrodians. I declare an unholy war upon your unnatural valve operation system ....

**mashman** · 20th August 2010, 12:26

Originally Posted by george formby

General question. If you accept that their are a huge number of people being displaced around the world for whatever reason. In coming decades which will prevail, religion (take your pick) or economics (eg.Sony, Nokia, BP etc)?

Can I choose the military