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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I'll give that a go.



    My new drive doesn't show up on there. Every other drive does show up, however.
    It your new disk does not show up under disk management then it is not plugged in correctly. Check the drive has power (can you hear it running) and that the interface cable is correctly plugged in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Do I want to create a striped volume or a spanned volume? Is there any significant advantage of formatting it in NTFS instead of FAT32, because I'm also going to be using Linux which I understand is not NTFS compatible. However, this drive is simply a backup drive, so all my music/movies will be stored on the external FAT32 drive, so I don't really need this drive to be Linux compatible.
    If you want to use it with Linux do not stripe or span it. This combines your two disks into one. Keep the two disks seperate as two different drive letters.

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    I've just completed formatting the drive and it's all good now. Thanks everyone!

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    While we're on the topic of hard drives, I've got a 12" sub sitting about half a metre away from my computer. Are the vibrations from the sub going to damage the drives? (keeping in mind I have about 350WRMS going into the sub)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    Thanks for your help everyone, I've gotten the drive to format at the moment with NTFS.
    Sounds sweet to me.

    Just to be safe, why don't you run a thorough scandisk on it so that any bad sectors are marked as not to be written on.

    Properties of Drive/Tools tab/Check now/Tick both boxes/Start

    If it asks you to schedule it for the next startup due to exclusive access being required, say yes and then restart when you have a couple of spare hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    While we're on the topic of hard drives, I've got a 12" sub sitting about half a metre away from my computer. Are the vibrations from the sub going to damage the drives? (keeping in mind I have about 350WRMS going into the sub)
    High amplitude sound has proven to interfere with hard disk performance before, I wouldn't recommend exposing your PC to high levels of direct bass for extended periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
    High amplitude sound has proven to interfere with hard disk performance before, I wouldn't recommend exposing your PC to high levels of direct bass for extended periods.
    I've always been told not to move a hard drive while it's switched on, but HDD based MP3 players don't seem to be affected too much by constant shocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I've always been told not to move a hard drive while it's switched on, but HDD based MP3 players don't seem to be affected too much by constant shocks.
    Music's quite easy 'cos it's sequential access so you can have a huge buffer without anyone really noticing the poor performance.

    Most use solid state chips now that the high capacity SD is readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    I've always been told not to move a hard drive while it's switched on, but HDD based MP3 players don't seem to be affected too much by constant shocks.
    MP3 players using memory chips have very different hardware, including the lack of platters and heads.

    Easy way to see the difference. Try getting decent write speeds on USB pen drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    While we're on the topic of hard drives, I've got a 12" sub sitting about half a metre away from my computer. Are the vibrations from the sub going to damage the drives? (keeping in mind I have about 350WRMS going into the sub)
    See if you can find the 'G' rating for your hard drive. Most have some kind of specification relating to shocks. Ideally look for something specifying the shock in terms of energy (such as joules).

    Next find a calculator to work out how much energy your sub is putting out.

    My personal guess is the pressure waves created by a sub would not be sufficient to interfere with a hard drive. You can barely feel the pressure wave of a sub on your skin (so it's probably something like .0001G or something redicously small). I bet you can feel greater pressure (with your finger touching it) from the hard drive itself when it is seeking.

    And althought you have 350WRMS of sub, chances are you wont actually be driving it that hard most of the time or you will suffer hearing damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    See if you can find the 'G' rating for your hard drive. Most have some kind of specification relating to shocks. Ideally look for something specifying the shock in terms of energy (such as joules).

    Next find a calculator to work out how much energy your sub is putting out.

    My personal guess is the pressure waves created by a sub would not be sufficient to interfere with a hard drive. You can barely feel the pressure wave of a sub on your skin (so it's probably something like .0001G or something redicously small). I bet you can feel greater pressure (with your finger touching it) from the hard drive itself when it is seeking.

    And althought you have 350WRMS of sub, chances are you wont actually be driving it that hard most of the time or you will suffer hearing damage.
    There is a video of a guy on the interwebs yelling at an enterprise level drive array and the monitoring system recording a disk performance drop. ie. the energy of his unamplified voice was enough to interfere with the disk read/write heads.

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    Here's the vid:

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    Vibrations + HDD's = Reduced lifespan and a greater number of errors, which you will see as slower read rates(it has to read that sector again as it spins around the second time).

    Mechanical drives have lots of delicate moving parts moving at up to 7200rpm, you won't destroy it(aside from the reduced lifespan, not greatly reduced but no one wants to eventually lose their data).

    It won't physically damage your disks but HDD's are already the bottleneck in modern computers, why make it even slower?

    Big speakers also have big magnets, electronics don't like magnets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKEU View Post
    While we're on the topic of hard drives, I've got a 12" sub sitting about half a metre away from my computer. Are the vibrations from the sub going to damage the drives? (keeping in mind I have about 350WRMS going into the sub)
    Is that the new 12" sub with grilled meatballs and cheese? yum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse View Post
    Is that the new 12" sub with grilled meatballs and cheese? yum
    It could be.

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