Scott Watson links

[98tls]

End of the day Watson/Bain blah blah blah will all matter little in a decade or so,wait until the "unsmackable' generation come to the fore with nothing but replays of some Playstation game in there heads combined with getting there own way since kindy,should be a riot.

[maxlev]

Anyone like to explain the presence of two human dna samples taken from the boat that were not his? The significant amount of human blood residue found, the blood on the matresses that wasnt his, the nail finger marks that wasnt his either........... nothing happened there obviously, just another innocent boatie... yeah right.

Where do you get your info from?

The only blood found on Blade belonged to Scott Watson, he cut his foot on some glass.

The 6 inch & 10 inch hairs were not found in the initial inspection of hairs from the tiger blanket.
They were only found later, on the day some sample hairs were taken from the missing girls bedroom.
There was a slit in one of the sample bags, the ESR lab tech, when questioned about this in court, could not rule out contamination.

The facts were exposed 7 years ago, and remain to this day unchallenged.
What has been happening for the last 7 years is the system stalling as they are unable to accept an innocent man was convicted.

Crown prosecutors lied, Appeal Court created a new lie and to keep it under wraps, a NZ Judge on secondment to the Privy Council, made the decision that the PC will not look into this case.

[Rogue Rider]

The facts were exposed 7 years ago, and remain to this day unchallenged.
What has been happening for the last 7 years is the system stalling as they are unable to accept an innocent man was convicted.

Crown prosecutors lied, Appeal Court created a new lie and to keep it under wraps, a NZ Judge on secondment to the Privy Council, made the decision that the PC will not look into this case.[/QUOTE]

Just read some of the data coallated on this case. The more you look into this, the more hypothetical and irrational it is. There is alot of mis handling in this case for sure. PC should have most certainly ran this one for the credibility of the justice system. It is very interesting. Sounds like the possibility of evidence planting is possible.

[dangerous]

Where do you get your info from?

The only blood found on Blade belonged to Scott Watson, he cut his foot on some glass.

The 6 inch & 10 inch hairs were not found in the initial inspection of hairs from the tiger blanket.
They were only found later, on the day some sample hairs were taken from the missing girls bedroom.
There was a slit in one of the sample bags, the ESR lab tech, when questioned about this in court, could not rule out contamination.

The facts were exposed 7 years ago, and remain to this day unchallenged.
What has been happening for the last 7 years is the system stalling as they are unable to accept an innocent man was convicted.

Crown prosecutors lied, Appeal Court created a new lie and to keep it under wraps, a NZ Judge on secondment to the Privy Council, made the decision that the PC will not look into this case.

He gets the info from the media and then findes it easier (lazier) to believe, as it is human nature to blame and ridicule, I spose for the most it puts there mind at rest.

What you post is very good, Ill just add the finger nail scratch marks... they were on polystyrene and watsons sister said her kids did it, hell polly and kids is a magnet.

[DougieNZ]

Yes of course!!!

Poor Watson finding all their blood on his boat and trying to merely clean up the mess and forgetting to tell the police about it. Must be innocent.

Yeah - and only 46 convictions including threatening to kill 3 people. He MUST be innocent. Release him immediately!

Interesting isn't it. IN court the evidence is heard by a jury and they make their decision on the evidence. OUT of court we can make all sorts of unsubstantiated allegations that have never been tested in court - purjury, evidence tampering, corruption etc etc. We can say whatever we like without having to ever answer for it or have our opinions challenged. And we then talk about injustice!

I'm sticking with the jury on this one...

[MSTRS:Me]

Hairs that weren't there first time round...interesting.
.22 casing, anyone?

[SS90]

I have to go with the 46 convictions on this (man, that is alot)........ he clearly has a criminal mind, and I just feel he has got what is coming to him...... the only shame is that if he IS innocent, then there is a killer out there that has got away with murder........ but if that is the case, why has this person stopped killing?, it just seems unlikely.

Clearly I could not be a juror on this case!

[MSTRS:Me]

...why has this person stopped killing?...

And you know this - how?
Watson is/was no saint. But there are just too many things about this case that point to it not being him. Juries convict on what they are presented with. And I think we all know how that works. Now, there is a mountain of evidence available, and some very telling stuff not presented at trial (and let's say - not very flattering of the police investigation). Would the same, or any, jury convict if they had ALL what is available to consider?

[maxlev]

Prosecution claimed Blade was seen in Cook Straight 4:30pm (E174.24 S 41.15)
and 35 minutes later at Erie Bay (11nm),

Defence told the court the trip was impossible due to the laws of physics for a displacement boat (HS = 1.34 x √LWL).

Scott reckons he travelled 13 nm on his trip to Erie Bay, Crown reckon 34 nm (8.5 hours at 4 knots)

Do any of the bent pig worshipers believe Blade can exceed (HS = 1.34 x √LWL) by a multitude of 4?

[Indoo]

Crown prosecutors lied, Appeal Court created a new lie and to keep it under wraps, a NZ Judge on secondment to the Privy Council, made the decision that the PC will not look into this case.

Man those drug smugglers sure got lucky eh. Snuck into the bay without being seen, made it ashore without anyone seeing them, kidnapped and murdered two teenagers just for kicks(cos thats what drug smugglers not wanting to bring attention to themselves and all), then made off overseas again without anyone seeing them.

The corrupt local cops who were paid off by the dealers to make it all go away also got lucky and by a huge coincidence there was a guy perfectly fitting the whole pychopath model on shore who again in a perfect coincidence had set himself up to be framed for murder and like every other innocent man wrongly accused would cover up and extensively clean a non-existent crime scene, lie to the Police and and refuse to answer questions in court.

The local cops must have then arranged for a large team of corrupt detectives to come in from around the country who inturn got in another large team of corrupt crown prosecutors who found themselves a corrupt Judge and later orcheastrated another team of corrupt Judges to sit on the court of appeal and to finish off this huge mass conspiracy even mangaged to plant a corrupt Judge on the privy council.

Sounds far more likely than the boring alternative.

[dangerous]

Prosecution claimed Blade was seen in Cook Straight 4:30pm (E174.24 S 41.15)
and 35 minutes later at Erie Bay (11nm),

Defence told the court the trip was impossible due to the laws of physics for a displacement boat (HS = 1.34 x √LWL).

Scott reckons he travelled 13 nm on his trip to Erie Bay, Crown reckon 34 nm (8.5 hours at 4 knots)

Do any of the bent pig worshipers believe Blade can exceed (HS = 1.34 x √LWL) by a multitude of 4?

correct and as I said Watsons Dad took the Blade from the Straight to the bay at full speed with the tide and wind and could not possibly do it in such a time, hours out.

Man those drug smugglers sure got lucky eh. Snuck into the bay without being seen, made it ashore without anyone seeing them, kidnapped and murdered two teenagers just for kicks...

Sounds far more likely than the boring alternative.

'Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit' and whos to say anyone was murdered? maybe they were inticed as teenagers to a new world, could be living it up in the Bahamas or running a drug syndicate into Oz, or maybe they are at the botom of the ocean.

And you know this - how?
Watson is/was no saint. But there are just too many things about this case that point to it not being him. Juries convict on what they are presented with. And I think we all know how that works. Now, there is a mountain of evidence available, and some very telling stuff not presented at trial (and let's say - not very flattering of the police investigation). Would the same, or any, jury convict if they had ALL what is available to consider?

yip, well said

[Toaster]

He gets the info from the media and then findes it easier (lazier) to believe, as it is human nature to blame and ridicule, I spose for the most it puts there mind at rest.

What you post is very good, Ill just add the finger nail scratch marks... they were on polystyrene and watsons sister said her kids did it, hell polly and kids is a magnet.

So you can mind read now? I am an ex cop - I take anything I hear with a grain of salt. FACTS and nothing else. Beyond reasonable doubt and open tested trial.

If you kids are that worried about it why havent you put your money where your mouths are like Karam did and taken it to the supreme court?

[Patrick]

.... Even more importantly, he was convicted after being kept unaware, throughout his whole trial, of what he was alleged to have done. For that reason only, he had not mounted a defence against it. The book shows that in fact evidence was available which readily absolves him. Instead, he was tried and convicted on a secret charge.

I love these two bits the best... a murder trial and he didn't know what he was alleged to have done and it was a secret charge....

I didn't think he was that dumb... Looks like he was...... Disclosure has been around waaaaaaaay before these two were killed.

I think you have youre head in the sand man, Or youre biased for some reason, its ok though your not alone and there has tobe two sides at least

Two sides for sure. He wouldn't give his. Try reading what I had said earlier.... Prosecution HAS to give out their side, the Defence DOES NOT. Two sides? Nah...... BIased? Now you're taking the piss.....

....Bain case, well, the whole family were messed up, I wouldn't have blamed David blowin away his old man for what he did to the family,...

Yep.... blame the dead man and accuse him of all things nasty, without a shred of evidence.....

Yeah - and only 46 convictions including threatening to kill 3 people. He MUST be innocent. Release him immediately!

Interesting isn't it. IN court the evidence is heard by a jury and they make their decision on the evidence. OUT of court we can make all sorts of unsubstantiated allegations that have never been tested in court - purjury, evidence tampering, corruption etc etc. We can say whatever we like without having to ever answer for it or have our opinions challenged. And we then talk about injustice!

I'm sticking with the jury on this one...

Hell yeah.....

Prosecution claimed Blade was seen in Cook Straight 4:30pm (E174.24 S 41.15)
and 35 minutes later at Erie Bay (11nm),

Defence told the court the trip was impossible due to the laws of physics for a displacement boat (HS = 1.34 x √LWL).

Scott reckons he travelled 13 nm on his trip to Erie Bay, Crown reckon 34 nm (8.5 hours at 4 knots)

Do any of the bent pig worshipers believe Blade can exceed (HS = 1.34 x √LWL) by a multitude of 4?

Yep. He was sailing downhill....... with a tail wind......

Man those drug smugglers sure got lucky eh. Snuck into the bay without being seen, made it ashore without anyone seeing them, kidnapped and murdered two teenagers just for kicks(cos thats what drug smugglers not wanting to bring attention to themselves and all), then made off overseas again without anyone seeing them.

The corrupt local cops who were paid off by the dealers to make it all go away also got lucky and by a huge coincidence there was a guy perfectly fitting the whole pychopath model on shore who again in a perfect coincidence had set himself up to be framed for murder and like every other innocent man wrongly accused would cover up and extensively clean a non-existent crime scene, lie to the Police and and refuse to answer questions in court.

The local cops must have then arranged for a large team of corrupt detectives to come in from around the country who inturn got in another large team of corrupt crown prosecutors who found themselves a corrupt Judge and later orcheastrated another team of corrupt Judges to sit on the court of appeal and to finish off this huge mass conspiracy even mangaged to plant a corrupt Judge on the privy council.

Sounds far more likely than the boring alternative.

ROFL........... Man, did they ALL get lucky. I think we could/should throw in an alien invasion/abduction into the mix somehow....

[Coldrider]

Man those drug smugglers sure got lucky eh. Snuck into the bay without being seen, made it ashore without anyone seeing them, kidnapped and murdered two teenagers just for kicks(cos thats what drug smugglers not wanting to bring attention to themselves and all), then made off overseas again without anyone seeing them.

The corrupt local cops who were paid off by the dealers to make it all go away also got lucky and by a huge coincidence there was a guy perfectly fitting the whole pychopath model on shore who again in a perfect coincidence had set himself up to be framed for murder and like every other innocent man wrongly accused would cover up and extensively clean a non-existent crime scene, lie to the Police and and refuse to answer questions in court.

The local cops must have then arranged for a large team of corrupt detectives to come in from around the country who inturn got in another large team of corrupt crown prosecutors who found themselves a corrupt Judge and later orcheastrated another team of corrupt Judges to sit on the court of appeal and to finish off this huge mass conspiracy even mangaged to plant a corrupt Judge on the privy council.

Sounds far more likely than the boring alternative.

The case should have been conducted from Alexandra Police Station.

[scumdog]

Scott reckons he travelled 13 nm on his trip to Erie Bay, Crown reckon 34 nm (8.5 hours at 4 knots)

'reckon' - is that some newer and more accurate form of measurement ????