Islamisation

[toycollector10]

No one is ever going to change any other persons mind on a forum like this.

But. Would we have been having this debate pre 9/11? The buses of 7/7 in the UK. Geert Wilders. Theo Van Gogh. The Shoe Bomber. It just goes on and on and on.

At one end of the scale are the Taliban and all the madness of honour killings and stonings and sharia law. And unfortunately at the other end are all the moderate mum and dad Muslims keeping their heads down. They're forbidden by their book to criticize. Or leave the faith, on pain of death.

And of course they all hate each other as well. The Sunnis, Shiites, Bathists, Wahhabis and who knows how many other minor sects are blowing each other up in their markets and mosques on a regular basis with Allah firmly in their hearts..

I read in the press about the flooding in Pakistan. I feel sorry for the women and children. Of note, of course, was that only one Muslim state had contributed money for supplies and that was Saudi Arabia. One lousy million USD.

How pathetic and it just proves my point above about mutual hatred for not following the one true sacred bloody path.

And by the way, I'm not a Christian, I'm an Atheist and will criticize both religions given the chance.

[Berries]

And unfortunately at the other end are all the moderate mum and dad Muslims keeping their heads down. They're forbidden by their book to criticize. Or leave the faith, on pain of death.

I don't believe in religion myself, and I really can't understand why people would willingly subscribe to something where that is the case. I know 1.5 billion people can't be wrong, but it seems more like a cult to me. Which in the end I guess they all are.

[Rogue Rider]

I mean the first thing that obviously comes up is What the heck would you do with 72 wives? [/QUOTE]

Here's an interesting thought, According to the Torah, which is the foundation chapters of the Bible and the Koran, we are created in the image of God. This being so, it also clarifies in both that God is genderless......

Now if our spirits in the afterlife are genderless, then all be it they do not mate, and thence forth they have no organs aside from the ones they both have.
What the hell good is that unless your gay lol.... and especially what good is 70 odd virgins, thats a tease and a fraud put in there by a cult leader branding himself as a god himself..........
Most of the wars in the past and today, well ok all of them, are largely over religion....... Religion is fundamentally changed by human revelation and greed claiming each is the only true way...... Some must be wrong? or are they all right?
I understand the foundation of "God believing" dates to the beginning of human existance, it's just interesting that its changed from love to hatred through the ages.......

I am a believer in God myself, but I have trouble with Islam, even though the Koran teaches from the same initial law as the Bible, and it is supposedly the same God.

[pete376403]

And eat more bacon.


Mad Mullah MC ?
Heavens Virgins ?
The Mullah Mob ?

Jahannams Angels M/C

[Brian d marge]

Sorry I am not very educated in this matter, but just doing a bit of maths. . .so for every chap in Muslim heaven there are at least 80,072 hangers on who have managed to get their tickets stamped for free?

Sounds like it might get a mite crowded.

+ surely if these other people weren't Muslims they must be Infidels?

So Muslim heaven is packed to the gunnels with Infidels?

Who worked this out?

I had a quick check for number of suicide bombers , since 1980 odd there has been about 2000
So , thats about 160 million servents and a large number of unshaggable wo-men up there ( must be unshagable or they wouldnt be virgins )

that's since 1980,

Stephen

[meteor]

.... suicide bombers , since 1980 odd there has been about 2000...

Suicide bombers aren't new in history... look at the Kamikaze pilots. Oh wait, they were just Asian drivers in planes were't they... my mistake, as you were.

[F5 Dave]

I had a quick check for number of suicide bombers , since 1980 odd there has been about 2000
So , thats about 160 million servents and a large number of unshaggable wo-men up there ( must be unshagable or they wouldnt be virgins )

that's since 1980,

Stephen

So is it only suicide bombers that get the 80,000 servants & 72 wives?
Well either way they must have run out of virgins & manservants a while back & you'd have quite a heap of pretty pissed off Suicide bombers.

I mean as a demographic to have in your midst & be disgruntled, well you'd be pushed to find a worse one huh?

[emaN]

I've not checked this thread since my first post a few days ago.
I found a cute lil' red thing on my UCP which appears to be a red rep; being my first, I'm assuming this is what it is. Not bad, nearly took 5yrs.
I've posted some 'hairy' stuff on KB, notably the RR thread, and never once incited anyone to dish out a red rep; rather, we discussed, apologised if need be & moved on. Of course, this implies adult-ish behaviour, and at least an elementary form of communication skills.

Mattian doesn't appear to possess these. His subsequent posts on this thread have proven his downfall. A 'true' follower of the prophet Muhammed could never yoke themselves with a 'true' follower of The Christ, as has already been sufficiently outlined.

Should anyone be genuinely interested in names of visiting speakers (ie, no, you won't be able to throw molotovs at 'em) well known to Immigration and on global watch-lists, feel free to PM me.

Why? Purely 'cos I get the feeling there's rubber-necking going on in the thread now. Why do I get this feeling? There's been some incredibly accurate & valid posts written here, by people living in Europe now, that have been overlooked and barely (if at all) acknowledged.

We ignore the warnings at our peril.

Islamization is purpose driven & violent. Remove the distracting 'side dishes', look under the 'pretty' & harmless looking lettuce leaf & check out what lies under it.

Please don't forget, NZ is not as far from Europe (or Islamic countries!) as it once was.

One more thing, if I may; research for yourselves the true meaning of 'tolerant', 'tolerance' and decide for yourselves if they are correctly used in the media these days.

[pritch]

I think some hereabout need to read more?

In France the ghettoisation (new word) of muslims was Government policy. Some of the affected areas are basically Police no-go areas. An almost identical situation exists in parts of Britain but it was not official policy. Many muslims there just did not assimilate.

The British Labour Government had a policy of devolution, but that got put on the back burner when they realised that an election could result in a green flag being hoisted over the town hall somewhere like Bradford. The idea that the following Friday hands might be lopped off in the town square did not appeal.

The muslim bombers were British born. If they were in a sports team they'd have been described as English. They don't identify themselves as British however, rather as muslims.

Malaysia has been described as "moderate", I have it on good authority that it's a lot less moderate than it was. This from guys who lived there when I lived there, but who, unlike me, have been back subsequently.

I don't know what the answer is, but I do believe there is a problem. My preference would be for the problem to be somewhere else. If that makes me a redneck so be it. My impression though is that the people using that word are doing the Alfred E Neuman thing,
"Problem? What problem?"

[Berries]

Malaysia has been described as "moderate", I have it on good authority that it's a lot less moderate than it was. This from guys who lived there when I lived there, but who, unlike me, have been back subsequently.

I spent a bit of time in Borneo a few years back. I remember one story in the Kinabalu paper about three local girls being punished by whipping for dancing lewdly with Westerners. Saying that it seemed a bit harsh would be an understatement.

[Banditbandit]

Well Dutch crazies aside, what would happen if some european counties were outbreed by their immigrants?
Nah could never happen.

Err ... didn't that happen in Godzone 150 years ago ?

I Agree with your comments Hitch just like to point out this is also a NZ problem, we let great wads of the same nationality immigrate in very short periods of time.
... but NZ's immigration policy is one of the worst IMHO for what you say.

Errr .. yes. Definitely 150 years ago ...

So what's changed ?

[Clockwork]

They did a lot of things 150 years ago that we no longer thing were a good idea!

[R-Soul]

I seem to recall that Islam has come and gone like the tide in parts of Europe over quite a few centuries...

Surely you can't be that old!

[R-Soul]

At risk of invoking Godwins, National Socialism was either ignored or tolerated until its excesses couldn't be excused any longer (ie once they invaded other countries). Thus I expect it would be with extreme islam.

Interestingly enough, it is not the extremist islamists that have been doing the invading of copuntries recently... so lets keep things real here...

[Banditbandit]

They did a lot of things 150 years ago that we no longer thing were a good idea!

Yeah .. like what ? Taking over someone else's country ? Yeah right ..