MAG-NZ launches in New Zealand

[caseye]

I dont understand the action part not being political? Do you mean not aligned with National/Labour?

I'll prolly join next pay, belong to most groups (BRONZ, MNZ, SMC, not-ulysses-because-im-not-ancient-although-i-attended-one-of-their-meetings-once-)

Why do NZ bike related shops/clubs all gravitate towards black and yellow?

Eggsactly that Squiggles "Not Aligned" with any Political Party.
Many thnaks for the support.
In this case MAG-UK's main emblem is Black and ikky brown we wanted to keep the association but have something recogniseably Kiwi, this did it for us.

[Maha]

Eggsactly that Squiggles "Not Aligned" with any Political Party.
Many thnaks for the support.
In this case MAG-UK's main emblem is Black and ikky brown we wanted to keep the association but have something recogniseably Kiwi, this did it for us.

And how about the Te Reo translation?...nice touch...

[NONONO]

Big P, small p..gives a crap...Action, that's whats important.
MAG-NZ, works for me.

[fossil]

There is no member of my committee bagging the people that have worked so hard over many years...

Bloody marvellous, another group to water down the strength of motorcyclist, I notice you call it "my committee" was that a Freudian slip?

I belong to a number of clubs and organisations, including the largest motorcycle club in NZ. They have no political agenda, they don't beat drums or make effigies of government Ministers, they have over 65 affiliated clubs all over NZ, they are "not for profit", have a professionally staffed office,a history spanning over 90 years and they are representing our road riding members (and all motorcyclist) on a number of government committees and with various government departments. They have been working very hard to get access at the highest levels, to be involved, to look after the interest of motorcyclist and to effect a positive change to the way that we are viewed and treated by those who make decisions. Some people think they they are only about competition,those people are ill informed.
I belong to Motorcycling New Zealand.

[Maha]

Bloody marvellous, another group to water down the strength of motorcyclist, I notice you call it "my committee" was that a Freudian slip?

I belong to a number of clubs and organisations, including the largest motorcycle club in NZ. They have no political agenda, they don't beat drums or make effigies of government Ministers, they have over 65 affiliated clubs all over NZ, they are "not for profit", have a professionally staffed office,a history spanning over 90 years and they are representing our road riding members (and all motorcyclist) on a number of government committees and with various government departments. They have been working very hard to get access at the highest levels, to be involved, to look after the interest of motorcyclist and to effect a positive change to the way that we are viewed and treated by those who make decisions. Some people think they they are only about competition,those people are ill informed.

Thats exactly us (MAG-NZ)..thank you for your comments.

[caseye]

Bloody marvellous, another group to water down the strength of motorcyclist, I notice you call it "my committee" was that a Freudian slip?

I belong to a number of clubs and organisations, including the largest motorcycle club in NZ. They have no political agenda, they don't beat drums or make effigies of government Ministers, they have over 65 affiliated clubs all over NZ, they are "not for profit", have a professionally staffed office,a history spanning over 90 years and they are representing our road riding members (and all motorcyclist) on a number of government committees and with various government departments. They have been working very hard to get access at the highest levels, to be involved, to look after the interest of motorcyclist and to effect a positive change to the way that we are viewed and treated by those who make decisions. Some people think they they are only about competition,those people are ill informed.
I belong to Motorcycling New Zealand.

no slip fossil the committee of MAG-NZ is Mom's as she is the president. Belonging to any organisation that is willing is a good thing your input here is valued.Perhaps all riders/motorists should join one or the other. Butt which one they cry?
Well we've had enough of sitting around waiting for some magic to happen we're about trying to make something happen, calmly and with level heads, hopefully with plenty of support from ordinary bikers/motorists.

[NONONO]

Bloody marvellous, another group to water down the strength of motorcyclist, I notice you call it "my committee" was that a Freudian slip?

I belong to a number of clubs and organisations, including the largest motorcycle club in NZ. They have no political agenda, they don't beat drums or make effigies of government Ministers, they have over 65 affiliated clubs all over NZ, they are "not for profit", have a professionally staffed office,a history spanning over 90 years and they are representing our road riding members (and all motorcyclist) on a number of government committees and with various government departments. They have been working very hard to get access at the highest levels, to be involved, to look after the interest of motorcyclist and to effect a positive change to the way that we are viewed and treated by those who make decisions. Some people think they they are only about competition,those people are ill informed.
I belong to Motorcycling New Zealand.

Good on yer mate, sounds like your doing a fine job. Keep it up, hope to be working with MNZ in the near future.

[Pixie]

So a question, what caused the crash?

• Poor driving skills
• Speed
• Maintenance of the truck

Had the truck hit concrete barriers, it could well have climbed those; rolled over, or bounced its way down the motorway causing havoc, possible death.

My point - Look at the cause of the crash.

Driver suffered a heart attack

[Pixie]

Bloody marvellous, another group to water down the strength of motorcyclist, I notice you call it "my committee" was that a Freudian slip?

I belong to a number of clubs and organisations, including the largest motorcycle club in NZ. They have no political agenda, they don't beat drums or make effigies of government Ministers, they have over 65 affiliated clubs all over NZ, they are "not for profit", have a professionally staffed office,a history spanning over 90 years and they are representing our road riding members (and all motorcyclist) on a number of government committees and with various government departments. They have been working very hard to get access at the highest levels, to be involved, to look after the interest of motorcyclist and to effect a positive change to the way that we are viewed and treated by those who make decisions. Some people think they they are only about competition,those people are ill informed.
I belong to Motorcycling New Zealand.

I'm interested in joining.
What have they achieve recently?

[Big Dave]

I'm interested in joining.
What have they achieve recently?

They have achieved quite a lot really - you just seem too generally miserable to notice.
The minister consults Les (amongst others that represent larger numbers of riders).
It was Les who put the 'put money aside for safety measures' is his clam-like.
Plenty of other things too. He has worked quite tirelessly and is close to becoming a player.
BIKEOI etc.

My opinion is 'we' don't need a MAG and a BRONZ. There isn't enough interested people.

If one proves better than the other - well and good. If they serve to make each other weaker...time will tell huh.

Ulysses is sponsoring talks on a 'motorcycle council'. But purport it to be non-political. I suspect that will change in time too.

Good luck to all - said it all twice - I'm done - and will let the media make up their own minds.

[Mom]

We met last week at the Prospect in Howick and formed the basis of the MAG Committee over and all day breakfast and english tea..

That was a great venue too, I think a toss up between there and the Kaukapakapa Hotel. It will be great when Riverhead Hotel re-opens. Weekend meetings on the deck out the back sound pretty nice to me.

[scracha]

I belong to Motorcycling New Zealand.

So do I but I haven't heard fuck all about their position on ACC levies, never mind what action they've taken.

As for being "ill informed". Go to the MNZ website and you could be forgiven for thinking the organisation was all about competition.

Go MAG I say. Although I too think they should advocate better training and would be better off not mentioning the 2007 wire rope barrier incident.

[Maha]

They have achieved quite a lot really - you just seem too generally miserable to notice.

The minister consults Les amongst others that represent larger numbers of riders.

It was Les who put the 'put money aside for safety measures' is his clam-like.

Plenty of other things too.

I think Dave, that Pixie was referring to MNZ, scracha also knew who fossil was talking about.
Just to clear something up Dave, its not an ''Us V them'' thing. I very clearly stated that (to the founding members) right from the outset, so can we put it to bed please.

So do I but I haven't heard fuck all about their position on ACC levies, never mind what action they've taken.

As for being "ill informed". Go to the MNZ website and you could be forgiven for thinking the organisation was all about competition.

Go MAG I say. Although I too think they should advocate better training and would be better off not mentioning the 2007 wire rope barrier incident.

[kevie]

Interesting thread debate...... and as we know debate is healthy (except when the other guy is bigger and hits harder than you)
Also as we know competition is healthy and not necessarily a negative thing.
I think we need to keep an open mind on the BRONZ vs MAG issues, after all I think if the leadership of both are open and co-operative then they could be very effective together on the causes they represent. This will minimise the effect of a 'split support' but could potentially bring on board, overall, a larger number of supporters that may not of otherwise fronted up with their time, dollars and voice. After all ... there were thousands of motorcyclists at the BIKEOI suporting the 'cause' but how many signed up for BRONZ? I never...thought about it but never....... so maybe this will bring in some more members and hopefully, will not (as some fear) take anything away from BRONZ.
I think the first year will tell which one we should fund (or both) and show us the effectiveness of both BRONZ and MAG.

Congradulations guys on the commitment to get this up and running, wish yous well and hope we see a lot of combined groups activities.
Will post on our club (Feilding riders club) site re MAG-NZ too.

Off now to sign up ...... poor benificiary with a broken bike but you will ... this term, have my $20.

[Mom]

Go MAG I say. Although I too think they should advocate better training and would be better off not mentioning the 2007 wire rope barrier incident.

We are currently writing policy on training. MAG believes in, and supports advanced rider training. We will be lobbying hard to get better access to advanced training for bikers around NZ. This ACTION - taking advanced rider training, falls under our umbrella of "Personal Action" and forms part of the MAG policy.

As far as the WRB issue is concerned, we believe that we have a moral obligation to continue to have these barriers made safer for bikers. The petition has over 7,000 signatures on it now, we owe it to those that have signed to make sure their message is delivered to Parliament.