Not making a good attempt at stopping the offender(s) puts the public at even more risk.Originally Posted by scissorhands
Don't forget to bring a towel
Not making a good attempt at stopping the offender(s) puts the public at even more risk.
troglodytam extraordinaire
Not yet but the way this is going you never know.
troglodytam extraordinaire
No wrong. failure to stop for police puts the publice at risk.
Forum whore
Probably because of a lack of helicopter, there's 100x the runners here per capita. I don't know ANYBODY in the UK who's ran from the cops since the mid-80's.
Don't forget to bring a towel
The Auckland police have a whirly.
Forum whore
Fair enough to protest but....
You need to balance it out with a protest outside mr muppets hospital bed - flaming torches and pitchforks would add somewhat to the effect...
The magic is in the rubbing.
You protest against the Police for doing their job.....I'm confused. Whatever next!
Fair weather rider
what a relife!!!! i read the OP and thought "you can't tell me this clown is getting support"
i agree the problem is people not stoping, not the police chasing.
Forum whore
I'll give you the benefit of my doubts and just presume your post is a bad taste joke.
Shame on you - it's not funny.
Hardcore Biker
So all the experts are wrong. All the studies are wrong. All the pursuit policies in safer road countries are wrong. Wake up people. So manty studies show that drunk drive crash risk is mega increased by chases that anyone supporting such clownish behaviour is supporting homicide.
The risk of any drunk driver goes up as proven by bulk studies about 100 x when they are chased. Exactly they same as lighting a timebombs fuse or as if armed offenders fired randomly into the public while people are around.
There's nothing radical in the OP - just facts - undeniable facts that should not be suppressed in a safety valuing culture. Without facts we're all just swimming in a pea soup never knowing whats what.
The view of family which is grieving and can't be expected to be up to speed on chase science is not really authoritative nor any help to future innocent victims. I question the ethics of vulture Police visiting them to manipulate - what about their legal rights to not be involved in damage control... the investigations havent happened so rights and wrongs are not yet established.
For 7 years prior to 2003 Police racked up only 1-2 chase deaths yearly which is the norm in civilised societies. From 2002-2008 they upped the average to this year about 10. This is a scandal along with the 293 innocent victims harmed. Move into this century people.
If you won't take it from me here catching cops out lying....
> > pg bottom
> > http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...enders-to-flee'
or take it fom the experts
Listen to the global expert also on RNZ
> > http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...-fatal-pursuit
- congrats on knowing best based on gut feeling and diehard police love. Yolu won't find evidence for your theiries so compatible with Police spin though. The studies begun mid 90's are clear - runners dont increase with tight policies and Goddards report DID say most chases are over trivia. Police share responsibility in this decline in chase safety. It's hilarious if people can read the evidence and still not concede this - get to Police college now!
Police are at a Crossroads. Their choice is to get familiar with the scientific evidence and proced in a way that puts road safety first
Or they can support the Collins idiocy of a kneejerk toughening up on runner penalties that has not worked in New York or anywhere else tried to reduce flight incidences.
There is no question - the science is clear like 2 + 2. It is always better not to chase an impaired driver. On average a chase will cause more harm than letting them get away. Drunks pose a chronic risk not acute - they an go thousands of miles no crash and on average will, intriducing a chase to the mix on average causes more death. Sp why do it - thats a bit homicidal really.
As a nurse I'd never administer a treatment known to worsen a condition - I'd be sacked!
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Links please?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
Hardcore Biker
Links coming - need time outSorry.
Is the protest to stop police pursuits?
You can quote all the numbers you like, but the simple fact is - police have a job to do.
I don't want to see anarchy on the roads by suggesting this is the Police's fault and to call off pursuits when clearly the driver is an acute danger.
1. Pursuits over traffic offences
2. If the job is to maximise safety rampant chases are not the way as acknowledged in modern policies overseas where roads are safer
3. Restrictive policies reduce anarchy - the studies aren't just studies - they are about saving lives so not to be sniffed at imo
4. The latest fatal wouldn't have happened in many countries because impaired drivers aren't pursued like that as it turns a chronic risk acute - they use star chase and anpr or a variety of other methods to later and safely apprehend. A chase in an urban area with several traffic light controlled intersections would never be contemplated.
PS - it is cops feedingus info who are very discontent with how policy has gone so all is not as it seems.
Hardcore Biker
In typical KB fashion I can't be bothered reading in any great detail but I'm guessing that you are seeking folks to join you on a ride to lobby for the police to be equipped with heat seeking missiles to blow the fuck up the morons on our roads who can't consider anybody or anything else but their own limited sphere of experience.
I'm good with that
Don't forget to bring a towel
So then I can drive around pissed with no license plates and the cops can't do anything. What a great idea!
Hardcore Biker
There wouldn't be so much of this if our laws dealt with offenders first or second time round - N.Y. confiscates cars and ensures dicks stay off the road... basics missing etc etc
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