Drink-driver killed on 18th offence

**scorpious** · 3rd September 2010, 20:41

Interesting discussion on another forum.

Man killed a woman after driving drunk and crashing into her. Got four years in jail.
I reckon the fuckwit should have been charged with murder and put away for fucking ages.

What's the Kiwibikers opinions?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...n-18th-offence

**Gibbo89** · 3rd September 2010, 20:45

Originally Posted by scorpious

Interesting discussion on another forum.

Man killed a woman after driving drunk and crashing into her. Got four years in jail.
I reckon the fuckwit should have been charged with murder and put away for fucking ages.

What's the Kiwibikers opinions?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...n-18th-offence

17 prevoius convictions, the dude was a ticking time bomb. id run over his balls on my bike...

**Genie** · 3rd September 2010, 20:55

He's had his chance, many times over, he obvisiously has a major problem and as such, his right to live in this society...well really, he doesn't have a right anymore.

It's tragic....I've always wanted to believe that people can change...in this case, maybe he can't. Who knows.

This may just be the thing that sorts him out and he can then go on in life and maybe, he'll use his life as a lesson to others....it's happened before.

Harsher penalties....wake up New Zealand.....it's far too easy to be a crim in this country.

**nothingflash** · 3rd September 2010, 20:58

Burn him...

**Rogue Rider** · 3rd September 2010, 20:59

Originally Posted by scorpious

Interesting discussion on another forum.

Man killed a woman after driving drunk and crashing into her. Got four years in jail.
I reckon the fuckwit should have been charged with murder and put away for fucking ages.

What's the Kiwibikers opinions?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...n-18th-offence

For what it's worth, my opinion is this....... An accident is an accident, and there should always be grace, for an accident.....

HOWEVER, drinking alcohol, or taking drugs before getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is no accident, it is a willful decision one makes, and chooses.
If one gets behind the wheel after drinking or taking drugs, (prescription or not) and has an accident, and injures, maims or kills someone, then they have deliberately put themselves in that situation, and should face the consequences.

The law should send a sharp and pointed message to offenders, the law should have a mandatory responsibility to charge a person fitting to the result.

If:

Someone is killed: Manslaughter 8-10 years per fatality/ casualty. 50% minimum parole eligibility. (Sentences cumulative not concurrent.)

Someone seriously/ critically Injured: 5-8 years depending on the physical results.

Minor injuries/ Vehicle damage: 2-8 years.

All alcohol related offences should get jail time or Home Detention. No sympathy or warnings. Everyone knows its wrong, and what the consequences are. Its never the offender who is injured or killed, Its always the victims and their families who suffer.

Only my two cents worth. If you drink and drive, you should be shot at in the head with a 50 cal at 100 yards with a 10 second head start.

**SMOKEU** · 3rd September 2010, 21:02

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

If one gets behind the wheel after drinking or taking drugs, (prescription or not) and has an accident, and injures, maims or kills someone, then they have deliberately put themselves in that situation, and should face the consequences.

So just because I have problems with my stomach, and have been prescribed medication to fix it, I shouldn't drive? Keeping in mind said medication does not affect my co-ordination in any way, and I don't 'feel' any affects from it, other than reduced levels of stomach discomfort.

**nothingflash** · 3rd September 2010, 21:03

Originally Posted by Rogue Rider

Only my two cents worth. If you drink and drive, you should be shot at in the head with a 50 cal at 100 yards with a 10 second head start.

Or burned.

**candor** · 3rd September 2010, 21:14

There was a good old thread asking same question. I agree - murder, but the defense might be that his years of drinking left only one brain cell, so he was under mental disability. Sorry for the orphan.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rogue Rider again

**scumdog** · 3rd September 2010, 21:22

Gouge his eyes out.

I bet he then won't be caught drink-driving again.....

**scorpious** · 3rd September 2010, 21:41

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

So just because I have problems with my stomach, and have been prescribed medication to fix it, I shouldn't drive? Keeping in mind said medication does not affect my co-ordination in any way, and I don't 'feel' any affects from it, other than reduced levels of stomach discomfort.

If your stomach pills have no negative affect on your driving...fine to drive. Alcohol on the other hand does.

**Rogue Rider** · 3rd September 2010, 21:47

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

So just because I have problems with my stomach, and have been prescribed medication to fix it, I shouldn't drive? Keeping in mind said medication does not affect my co-ordination in any way, and I don't 'feel' any affects from it, other than reduced levels of stomach discomfort.

Excludes: non mind or personal control altering medications........ owh except Viagra, I mean its ok if you are hard enough to handle it...........

**Genestho** · 3rd September 2010, 21:55

If only you guys knew what a haul it has been to get changes to laws through, which in announcements today - have been fast tracked, they were due early next year!!

I have had the opportunity to be a 'support party' in this case since April.

Jenkins was charged with drink driving causing death, sentenced to 4 years - max penalty 5.
He received a years discount for pleading early guilt.

The family were forewarned there would be a restrictive sentence so luckily they were 'prepared'.

Scary thing is he will be up for parole in just over two years, off the top of my head I'm aware of two repeat drink drivers that have killed, that after release - have reoffended.

The Judge apparently wanted to give a longer sentence but was restricted.

"The defense even tried to avoid a sentence that would have a non parole period as it would interfere with Jenkins 'rehabilitation '.................The judge was not amused by this."

He'd only been out of jail for drink-driving for 10 days when this crash occured.

He fought police when caught, he fled after discharging himself from hospital and was caught a week later. This family have been through hell, are now raising a young man, and to top it off...

The facts that were presented regarding rehabilitation orders and re-offending over and over - have angered and dissapointed the family, and they are seeking answers as to how this happened - quite rightly so.