MAG-NZ opposes the Motorcycle Safety Levy

**MSTRS:Me** · 27th September 2010, 12:37

Originally Posted by StoneY

Actually MSTRS I have been researching this issue dilligently since I read the post your link pointed to
I was refraining from making any reply to that untill I had checked all FORMAL sources ( I am trying hard to ensure solid facts this time so a post on KB is hardly the source for verifying actual facts is it?)
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I was mistaken and will ensure my figures are more accurate heading forward

But if you think I am going to treat your pointing me at another post on KB as 'evidence' well fellah....think again
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I, too, would not rely on a KB post for veracity. I do have a reasonable memory tho, and ensured that I found the appropriate link to the levy announcement, before I called you on the $140 first time round.

Owning your mistake (even if eventually) is a good thing.

**Flip** · 27th September 2010, 17:20

Who the hell is MAG anyway?

Is it some bunch of do gooders who have just turned up on the scene and are trying to make some kind of political statement?

Thanks but not thanks guys, if I want some one to express my opinion on the goverment all I have to do is fart (or vote).

**GOONR** · 27th September 2010, 18:16

Originally Posted by Flip

Who the hell is MAG anyway?

Is it some bunch of do gooders who have just turned up on the scene and are trying to make some kind of political statement?

Thanks but not thanks guys, if I want some one to express my opinion on the goverment all I have to do is fart (or vote).

The answers to your questions, and more, are on the website.

Enjoy.

**kevie** · 27th September 2010, 18:27

Originally Posted by StoneY

I have checked a number of sources at both ACC and then compared the costs in the real world to the situation and you know, I was WRONG!
but originally I was assured that it was a total of 140 in increase for over 601cc bikes .

With due research it seems that is an incorrect figure and you may well be right it appears the full increase for 601cc+ bikes is in fact $174.00, which is inclusive of the MSL fund levy
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AAAHHHHHH were you realllly wrong tho LOL I took the original natter to be $140 then add the $30 for the Training levy ..... so thats $170 so really ... I think the parties seem to agree and saying the same thing from different perspectives

**MSTRS:Me** · 27th September 2010, 18:44

Originally Posted by kevie

AAAHHHHHH were you realllly wrong tho LOL I took the original natter to be $140 then add the $30 for the Training levy ..... so thats $170 so really ... I think the parties seem to agree and saying the same thing from different perspectives

Nope.
It might be a matter of pedantary (or semantics) but the levy rise was announced at $174 for >601cc. The MSL of $30 was announced later, as an inclusive of that $174.
Like I've said several times already...it was a sop to shut up bikers who still weren't impressed with the rise.

**AD345** · 27th September 2010, 20:08

Inneresting thread, two schools of thought.

Fight from within

Fight from without

And us Joe Bloggs can have a bob each way by joining both orgnisations - marvellous.

Personally I support the stance taken by MAG-NZ on this matter and it does this heart wonders to see a principled stand taken and articulated without ultimatums to those who disagree, a rare sight indeed.

I had a big long post all ready to go but realised I've pretty much said all I wanted to say on ACC in the relevant forums of this site and will leave it there.

So MAG -NZ you have my support

It'll take a bikini wash to get my money but*

*NOT a personal challenge to Maha I hasten to add (shudder)

**Maha** · 27th September 2010, 20:13

Originally Posted by AD345

Inneresting thread, two schools of thought.

Fight from within

Fight from without

And us Joe Bloggs can have a bob each way by joining both orgnisations - marvellous.

Personally I support the stance taken by MAG-NZ on this matter and it does this heart wonders to see a principled stand taken and articulated without ultimatums to those who disagree, a rare sight indeed.

I had a big long post all ready to go but realised I've pretty much said all I wanted to say on ACC in the relevant forums of this site and will leave it there.

So MAG -NZ you have my support

It'll take a bikini wash to get my money but*

*NOT a personal challenge to Maha I hasten to add (shudder)

Maha in a Mankini?.... thousands would donated to NOT see that...

mmmmmmmmm I have an idea.

**MadDuck** · 27th September 2010, 20:20

Originally Posted by AD345

It'll take a bikini wash to get my money but*

Will make sure I have mine on Sunday

**Flip** · 27th September 2010, 20:24

Originally Posted by GOONR

The answers to your questions, and more, are on the website.

Enjoy.

Yep, when I want some one to talk to my MP about my problems I will do it myself thanks.

**Mom** · 27th September 2010, 20:28

Originally Posted by Flip

I will do it myself thanks.

That is fantastic and all we ask really. Take personal action for/against that which you dont agree with. Glad to see someone that understands how important it is to make a stand.

**Reckless** · 27th September 2010, 22:13

Originally Posted by AD345

it does this heart wonders to see a principled stand taken and articulated without ultimatums to those who disagree, a rare sight indeed

Personal statement here!

Thank-you! I have a passionate belief that the last thing Bikers and Motorcycling needs at this time is hidden agendas, personality clashes and one up-manship battles. Motorcycling needs (and has needed for a very long time) something to unite them! The oil on the different cogs!

My belief now is that the only way we can fail is if bikers themselves don't get off there arses to help themselves on a long term basis!

The only way we have real power is if we are united. We shall see on Sunday?