Is the local economy subsidising farmers?

[p.dath]

So lets look at the normal price of a 500g container in the UK, which is about NZ$4.30. Compared to the NZ price for the 375g container for $5.38, I agree there is a discrepancy.

So the UK Anchor butter is 0.86 cents per gram (ordinary non special price), while the NZ Anchor butter is 1.43 cents per gram (ordinary non special price) - so the anchor butter is 66% more expensive to buy in NZ.[/QUOTE]

However, you can not base an argument on a single example of a wide and varied market. If you could, I could use the example I quoted in my post 3 up with the 500g 'blocks' and argue the prices are the same. Or I could take the currently advertised offer of 2 500g 'blocks' of Anchor butter for $7, once again 500g for $3.50, and argue that our prices are much cheaper.

If I get time later, I'll do a comparison of Anchor milk.

[onearmedbandit]

So the UK Anchor butter is 0.86 cents per gram (ordinary non special price), while the NZ Anchor butter is 1.43 cents per gram (ordinary non special price) - so the anchor butter is 66% more expensive to buy in NZ.

No, the anchor 'spread' is more expensive. Not the 'butter'. Get that much right please. And you've quoted from one retailer in the UK, and one in NZ. Hardly a fair indication of the two markets. And I have already agreed with your example in my earlier post. How about the two blocks of butter that ar the same price?

If I get time later, I'll do a comparison of Anchor milk.

Good idea. I'd suggest that you do some proper research before making any claims. One product from only one retailer in each market is hardly conclusive evidence.

[PirateJafa]

all the cunts we pay to stay at home for a start

Actually Jimmy if after accepting payment they would indeed piss off and stay at home it would be well worth the payment.Maybe tacking "fuck off were full" on the bottom of the flag would help though i doubt it.

I'd be happy if we could simply pay them not to breed.

Thirty years down the road, bam. Problem solved.

[p.dath]

Good idea. I'd suggest that you do some proper research before making any claims. One product from only one retailer in each market is hardly conclusive evidence.

It's a forum for expressing opinion, and that's what I did. Not a research journal.

My feeling is that local competition may be stiffled.

[onearmedbandit]

It strikes me that the average NZ'er is effectively subsidising the local NZ dairy farmer, by paying such a premium over other countries to buy NZ made products.

How come in NZ we have to pay so much more for our dairy products, than those people on the opposite site of the world?

It's a forum for expressing opinion, and that's what I did. Not a research journal.

My feeling is that local competition may be stiffled.

You came to the conclusion that 'the average NZ'er is effectively subsidising the local NZ dairy farmer, by paying such a premium over other countries to buy NZ made products', and based this off one example. Fail.

As you say, this is a forum where one can express their opinion and I'm expressing mine by saying that your conclusion is baseless without further research.

[doc]

If I get time later, I'll do a comparison of Anchor milk.

Good luck with that one.

Believe it or not. Anchor milk comes out of the same milk silo as the Housebrands (ie Pams n Dairy Dale they just have a different label and bottle), but commands a higher price because of the "Anchor " brand and tastes creamier
ppl honestly believe that. Dairy Dale is also owned by Anchor

[spacemonkey]

Pretty much all of the milk and cheese in supermarkets is a fontera brand.
Well apart from niece brands like Zorganic milk and a few Goodman Fielder cheeses.
Even the once independent Kapiti cheese is just another Fontera product now.

[Clockwork]

Good luck with that one.

Believe it or not. Anchor milk comes out of the same milk silo as the Housebrands (ie Pams n Dairy Dale they just have a different label and bottle), [/SIZE] [SIZE="1"] /SIZE]

Always suspected as much. BTW where does Tararua and Mainland fit in, are they another Fontera label?

[onearmedbandit]

Always suspected as much. BTW where does Tararua and Mainland fit in, are they another Fontera label?

Mainland are.

http://www.fonterra.com/wps/wcm/conn...nsumer+Brands/

[spacemonkey]

Tararua along with meadowfresh is a Goodman Fielder product.

[marty]

So the UK prices is two 500g blocks for £3. That's £1.5 per 500g block. That's about $NZ3.10 for 500g.

Woolworths NZ online are charging NZ$5.38 for a single smaller 375g block. Even if there was a deal for two blocks for $7 - it's only for a 375g block - much smaller.

So, no I don't follow it. It looks drastically cheaper in the UK.

So fuck off there then.

Please

[doc]

Getting back on track. The farmer gets "F' all compared to what Fonterra and the Supermarkets get after altering the milk. It's all about the "Ticket clippers" on the way extracting your dollar

[marty]

I buy 1/2 a beast at a time, only use milk for coffee and use olive oil-based spreads. grow most of my own veges and all my own citrus, get eggs from a farm friend, so it's not really a big issue for me.

and really d.path - if it's as good as you say it is over there, you really should go there.

[spacemonkey]

Getting back on track. The farmer gets "F' all compared to what Fonterra and the Supermarkets get after altering the milk. It's all about the "Ticket clippers" on the way extracting your dollar

lol And who owns Fonterra?
Oh yeah the very same farmers.

[p.dath]

Getting back on track. The farmer gets "F' all compared to what Fonterra and the Supermarkets get after altering the milk. It's all about the "Ticket clippers" on the way extracting your dollar

lol And who owns Fonterra?
Oh yeah the very same farmers.

Exactly. Fonterra profits go directly back to the shareholder farmers which own it.

We pretty much have a monopoly provider for dairy products, like Telecom in the Telco space has been, who have no incentive but to maximise profits for its shareholders - like Telecom.

Hmm, might be time to buy shares in Fonterra. Of that's right, I can't - you have to be a farmer.