Police above reproach?

[Madness]

Then one cop in 20 does something utterly brain-dead and we're shallow enough to think that they're all like that.

Perhaps there's part of the problem right there - is it really just the one in 20 that's damaging the N.Z public's perception with their police force?. I think not.

I think a lot can be said too about the negative impact that can often be seen resulting from senior officers trying to "set an example" for junior officers, particularly when dealing with minor traffic infringements.

[shrub]

But if the odds are bad he'll end up dead - or worse, get somebody else killed - like his own partner and kid.

Tell him not to do dumb-fuck shit that will get him 'pinged', especially if it's like the penalty for doing 62 kph is what he is running from..



I bet that post by shrub is a troll, it has to be - surely NOBODY is as as dumb a fucking drongo as this supposed 'generally normal, main-stream guy with a good job, a partner and a kid'

I don't tell him to do anything beyond mirror my behaviour and obey every one of Her Majesty's laws to the letter and submit to her noble and fair servants.

No, it's not a troll. I'm simply identifying that seemingly ordinary people can be the evil fools that run away from our constabulary, and that they're not the P addicted, drunken, unemployed, sex crazed maniacs our fine media portray them as.

[miloking]

I've done some stupid things in my life,felt i've come close to death a number of times, but earlier in the week i almost got hit by a copper in a police pursuit ......


I had little love for the cops before but that's gone now, disgusted.

Thats what i've been saying here for last year and everybody just thinks i have some unjustified grudge against police....glad that NZ public is actualy waking up a little because thats the only way we can change something, just a shame its only at the rate of one endangered life at the time
NZ police needs to get their shit together and asap...especialy in regards of the pursuits (and yes they are pursuits not a "failed to stop" as some senior police officials are trying to label it as to avoid police having any responsibility)

[Rych]

Thats what i've been saying here for last year and everybody just thinks i have some unjustified grudge against police....glad that NZ public is actualy waking up a little because thats the only way we can change something, just a shame its only at the rate of one endangered life at the time
NZ police needs to get their shit together and asap...especialy in regards of the pursuits (and yes they are pursuits not a "failed to stop" as some senior police officials are trying to label it as to avoid police having any responsibility)

The driver fails to stop causing the police to pursue it. The crime is being commited by the dumb ass who decides "I don't want to stop".

Whether the police should continue to pursue the fleeing driver is another issue and depends on the circumstances.

[DMNTD:Me]

The driver fails to stop causing the police to pursue it. The crime is being committed by the dumb ass who decides "I don't want to stop".

Whether the police should continue to pursue the fleeing driver is another issue and depends on the circumstances.

Idiot driver/rider chooses to do the runner, check.
Police Officers choose to chase said idiot, check.
Police Officers choose to drive in a manner that potentially could harm themselves/public, FAIL.

The Police are supposed to be the smart ones in the equation and in my opinion ought to know when things are too dicey to continue the pursuit.

[wysper]

The police are in a lose - lose situation here.

Especially as views from either side will always be different.

Person runs from minor crime.
People say don't persue its minor crime.

what about the victim of that minor crime?
They will want the bastard caught.

Later on in the evening same person gets pissed and wipes out another driver. Possibly a motorcyclist.

It comes out that earlier in the evening he was in the polices line of sight.

Now general public is baying for police blood because they didnt stop said driver.


Rewind to inital chase

Police continue persuit, someone is hurt in chase, doesnt matter if it is driver or cops fault.
Public bay for police blood.

Another option

Police persue in first instance, safely bring pursuit to a close, arrest said offender.
Public are none the wiser and dont care.

I am not a police apologist, but can see they can't win. What ever choice they make, someone will complain that it was the wrong one. I, for one, would rather have the Police there, than not have them there.

[munster]

I support Police chases, bastards who run are at fault. Police are just doing there job. But when I see this sort of stuff http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...lum-London-job in the papers with seeming regularity, a little bit more of my faith with & respect for NZ Police gets whittled away.

It's not the fact that there's a few bad apples, there's some in every barrel.

But we usually sort them and throw the bad ones out. In the Police, they get promoted.

[NUTBAR]

Idiot driver/rider chooses to do the runner, check.
Police Officers choose to chase said idiot, check.
Police Officers choose to drive in a manner that potentially could harm themselves/public, FAIL.

The Police are supposed to be the smart ones in the equation and in my opinion ought to know when things are too dicey to continue the pursuit.

the police here get all hyped up with the chases, i think the whole point of this thread was the fact that the police were driving in a recless manner passed a school with a school crossing patrol out! with i belive no suspect in front of them? so there for no reason for there carless use of a motor vehicle. or exsesive speed passed a school!

[schrodingers cat]

I had little love for the cops before but that's gone now, disgusted.

If I put green tinted glasses on the world looks green.
It I look through red tinted plastic the world looks red.

Thanks for the clue as to how you look at the world

What a boring, done to death thread. Please try harder.

[Expert]

If I put green tinted glasses on the world looks green.
It I look through red tinted plastic the world looks red.

Thanks for the clue as to how you look at the world

What a boring, done to death thread. Please try harder.

But you still feel the need to post your condescending, irrelevent comments?

[munster]

What a boring, done to death thread. Please try harder.

It maybe boring to some. It may have been done to death a thousand times before, but guess what. We are the customers, we are the taxpayers, our voice, our opinion is supposed to count & maybe even matter to some people.

The Police HQ sit there and wonder why people are losing respect for them.

You don't have to look far to see why.

[Usarka]

I'm sure the police are highly trained and practiced in driving skills, not just some silly one-day course every two years.

I hear a rumour they are entering some drivers in Bathurst next year.

[Scuba_Steve]

Police chases are never gonna please everyone, usually if someone's running is for more than the current offense the disco started for, tho they could also be thrill seekers. So while I think most of them can't be avoided if the person is known just let 'em go & catch up with them later, also training wouldn't go amiss I could out drive most cops after a bottle of vodka, so if they're going to proceed with dangerous driving they should first be taught how to drive.

[MSTRS:Me]

... bad apple... In the Police, they get promoted.

Assistant Commissioner is a well sought- after job...

I hear a rumour they are entering some drivers in Bathurst next year.

They will be in their element then. Doing the following...

[Tink]

I am guessing police don't give a shit what Joe Public thinks, but they do give a shit about the public, (most I would imagine)... I would not like to be facing a criminal every day of my life.

Someone has to do the job, I would like to see those that complain give it a go... !