when they prove they have been here as long as the Aboriginies have been @ Uluru, then I'll respect their call of 'indigenous'
when they prove they have been here as long as the Aboriginies have been @ Uluru, then I'll respect their call of 'indigenous'
Anarchic Wild Child
Kia ora ano ...Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback
I'm sorry but you are completely misreading the situation ... It was a wero at the beginning of a powhiri .. and you all missed the gestures that said "Come on .. Follow me ..." and a Tewhatewha is not a spear ... it's shaped differently and used in a different way ..
Yes, he was expressing his displeasure with what the mayor and his cohorts were doing ... his expression was in a cultural manner completely appropriate in a Māōri situation - which was what the mayor was walking into ... You and the mayor have no idea how to respond in a culturally appropriate manner, and the news media had no idea what they were looking at either ... and consequently misreported the situation ..
In just the same way many of our people do not understand many Pākehā cultural situations and do not know how to respond appropriately in those either ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
Why on earth would we want to emulate Australia ?
And what would constitute proof ? In western academic terms or in Māori terms ?
And why does length of time here matter ? We are talking about human beings - people we share a country with ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Forum whore
is that like the european custom of not beating babies to death??
Hardcore Biker
Actually JimO, the tradition of beating babies to death was an entirely European import, you know from the people who said 'spare the rod and spoil the child', and 'children should be seen and not heard' and who put their kids down the salt mines. Will type up relevant quotes from early missionaries and settlers later.
WELLINGTON: Tag-o-rama
Fully qualified Sifter.
No, I understood what was going on quite well. I simply think it has no place in a modern society, regardless of it's origins.
Tearing Choppa a new A'Hole
Bwahahahahahaha
Vote David Bain for MNZ president
Anarchic Wild Child
Yes .. we learnt that one from the Europeans .. our histories are filled with stories about one parent who hit a child (or even accidentally killed one) and the family of the other parent took revenge by killing the offending parent ... childrern were very well looked after and not hit - or killed.
That's a habit we learnt from the Europeans ... taught through schools where hitting children was allowed - and we as childern were frequently hit ... and incidentally promoted by some members of this forum in other threads ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
LIke the Monarchy ? Parliamentary Democracy ?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Hardcore Biker
Judiciary? Church?
WELLINGTON: Tag-o-rama
Fully qualified Sifter.
I think the Monarchy has done it's dash too.
Forum whore
I think you're showing a little ignorance towards European culture their matey... the bible is quite clear on the intent of that text, and putting babies into washing machines certainly isn't it.
Forum whore
big difference between smacking (you say hitting) children and murdering them. Pity maori havnt learned other european customs like working and getting ahead in life, most are to busy with their stone age gimmi gimmi existence
Forum whore
No, the difference is between disciplining your children and letting them run wild. Administering that might require physical admonishment or it may not, but the point is of course the action of disciplining and not avoiding doing so, not the method itself.
Forum whore
Did they have washing machines back then? I know they had cars, there are numerous mentions in the bible such as;
One theory is that Jesus would tool around in an old Plymouth because, "God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in His Fury."
But in Psalm 83, the Almighty clearly owns a Pontiac and a Geo. The passage urges the Lord to "pursue your enemies with your Tempest and terrify them with your Storm."
Perhaps God favors Dodge pickup trucks, because Moses' followers are warned not to go up a mountain "until the Ram's horn sounds a long blast."
Some scholars insist that Jesus drove a Honda, but didn't like to talk about it. As proof, they cite a verse in St. John's Gospel, in which Christ tells the crowd, "I did not speak of my own Accord."
Meanwhile, David rode an old British motorcycle, as evidenced by a Bible passage declaring that "the roar of David's Triumph is heard in the hills."
Joshua drove a Triumph sports car with a hole in its muffler: "Joshua's Triumph was heard throughout the land."
And, following the Master's lead, the apostles carpooled in a Honda: they were in one Accord.
But nowhere could I find a reference to a washing machine.
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