New 2011 Kawasaki Z1000SX

[White trash]

It will still be over sprung and under damped (but the springs will be for a 65kg rider) so you'll need to spend $2k on the suspension to make it rideable at anything over 3/10ths and it will be gasping to breathe so you'll need to spend $600-$1000 on muffler and air filter and then if you really want that mid-range to be fulsome and lusty you'll need a Power Commander V and extensive Dyno time, so another $1-$2k. It'll probably be about $17k, and by the time you've made it cost $25k you'll be kicking yourself for not just buying a Street Triple R.

Meanwhile Suzuki release the GSR750 which will be 30-40kgs lighter with 20hp more and suspension that works up to about 7/10ths, ideal for normal people in other words. It will be a cheap and cheerful alternative to a Street Triple with cheaper insurance and a higher top speed and rat versions of them will still be surfacing in 20 years time when no one remembers any of the other mid-size nakeds of the time.

The FZ8 will be roughly comparable to the Suzuki (with a nasty hesitation just as the throttle is cracked making corner entry throttle transitions a butt clenchingly jerky affair just when you want to wind smooth power on) but will cost 50% more for no real reason. No one will buy them because, let's face it, Yamaha riders are nutters who like to ring the tits off an R6 or bling the crap out of an R1. The R1 at least sounds like a NASCAR refugee, so that's all good.

Honda will release a 750/800cc naked contender but it will be a hybrid with a "Human Friendly" transmission and an overall power output 30% down on any of its competitors but its marketing bumpf would have you believe that only losers would ride anything else despite the Honda using more actual dinosaur juice when used in the real world and there will only be one sold in NZ at a hugely discounted price to a slightly crazed Apple devotee who takes technophilia to scary levels. He'll then proceed to bore people senseless from behind his stylish spectacles and roll neck cordura jacket with leather elbow patches about Honda's commitment to the planet's future. He'll still have no friends who want to be seen riding with him.

And that folks is the truest prediction ever on KB.If he had added Craig Shirriffs will own the world at Wanganui '10, it would have been perfect.

[CHOPPA]

And that folks is the truest prediction ever on KB.If he had added Craig Shirriffs will own the world at Wanganui '10, it would have been perfect.

Have you told your wife yet Jimmy??

[Pascal]

I love the look of the Z1000. This seems very similar and there seems to be a good component overlap in terms of look as well. I like the look of this too.

[White trash]

Have you told your wife yet Jimmy??

About the man love? She knows mate, she knows.....

[yod]

RRP:

$21,995
$22,995 with ABS

http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_c...000GBF&do=list

[zeocen]

Yep, fuck that.

[pzkpfw]

It'll do what the CB1000R did.

It now retails at $15,325 inc GST according to PDF on Honda NZ website.

But it started at something much more than that.

[zeocen]

It'll do what the CB1000R did.

It now retails at $15,325 inc GST according to PDF on Honda NZ website.

But it started at something much more than that.

I don't see it happening. They hiked up the "built to budget" bikes by 3 - 4 grand a few years ago and they haven't dropped since. The Z1000 doesn't look like it's going to be moving in price any time soon and I can't see what essentially is a faired version of the same bike being a lower price.

It doesn't seem to deter some people though, my old man went to Experience Motorcycles and it seems they have 11 on pre-order already.

[NZsarge]

It will still be over sprung and under damped (but the springs will be for a 65kg rider) so you'll need to spend $2k on the suspension to make it rideable at anything over 3/10ths and it will be gasping to breathe so you'll need to spend $600-$1000 on muffler and air filter and then if you really want that mid-range to be fulsome and lusty you'll need a Power Commander V and extensive Dyno time, so another $1-$2k. It'll probably be about $17k, and by the time you've made it cost $25k you'll be kicking yourself for not just buying a Street Triple R.

Meanwhile Suzuki release the GSR750 which will be 30-40kgs lighter with 20hp more and suspension that works up to about 7/10ths, ideal for normal people in other words. It will be a cheap and cheerful alternative to a Street Triple with cheaper insurance and a higher top speed and rat versions of them will still be surfacing in 20 years time when no one remembers any of the other mid-size nakeds of the time.

The FZ8 will be roughly comparable to the Suzuki (with a nasty hesitation just as the throttle is cracked making corner entry throttle transitions a butt clenchingly jerky affair just when you want to wind smooth power on) but will cost 50% more for no real reason. No one will buy them because, let's face it, Yamaha riders are nutters who like to ring the tits off an R6 or bling the crap out of an R1. The R1 at least sounds like a NASCAR refugee, so that's all good.

Honda will release a 750/800cc naked contender but it will be a hybrid with a "Human Friendly" transmission and an overall power output 30% down on any of its competitors but its marketing bumpf would have you believe that only losers would ride anything else despite the Honda using more actual dinosaur juice when used in the real world and there will only be one sold in NZ at a hugely discounted price to a slightly crazed Apple devotee who takes technophilia to scary levels. He'll then proceed to bore people senseless from behind his stylish spectacles and roll neck cordura jacket with leather elbow patches about Honda's commitment to the planet's future. He'll still have no friends who want to be seen riding with him.

Ummm, so what are you trying to say exactly?

RRP:

$21,995
$22,995 with ABS

http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_c...000GBF&do=list

Yep, fuck that.

Yes it's too expensive but get used to it, like it or not we are all going to have to re-adjust out thoughts on new bike prices, incase you haven't noticed they're all going up and by reasonable chunks too.
Puts paid to the thought of buying new next time I think.
The Z1000 SX is better value than the VFR1200 which I think might be the most overpriced Japanese bike on the market but it's starting to get some competition for sure.

[Hillbilly]

Isn't it strange how the prices of these new Japanese bikes are now beginning to make the Italian bikes look affordable. An example is the new Suzuki GSX650F is only slightly cheaper then the new GSF1250 Bandit. Given the new ACC levy and rego hike it wouldn't be worth buying the 650 at all!

[vifferman]

Z1000 is what the Honda Predator is up against.
This bike is known as the Ninja 1000 SX

Mmm... mebbe.
Interestingly, there is mucho interest on the Mrkn VFR sites from people who were a little disappointed Honda didn't bring out a 1000cc more sporty VFR rather than the two 1200s.