A racetrack incident. Whodunnit?

**FROSTY:Me** · 9th December 2010, 19:32

A senario thats bugged me . Just wonder what you guys make of it.
At a racetrack somewhere in Australasia
Its a hot sunny day. Untimed practice for the next days racing. A bit of a hodgepodge of race classes are allowed on the track together.
The track is a fantastic setup for bikes being wide enough to allow a range of different lines to "work".
Rider A has been out on the track for a few laps. Rider B pulls onto the track some distance behind him.
Two laps go by and rider B has caught up with rider A.
Rider A has been taking a low to mid line round one right hand corner so to the right side and into the track middle.
Aproaching that corner on his lap 4 rider B accelerates and pulls to the left hand side of the track in order to pass rider A.
Rider A pulls across to the left and rides up the right exhaust pipe and tailpiece of Rider B's bike which resulted in rider A crashing dramatically. Rider B has damage to the exhaust and tailpiece but not major.
So in this senario who is responsible for the incident if anybody?

**hayd3n** · 9th December 2010, 19:36

rider A should race in a lower class

**Maha** · 9th December 2010, 19:45

Rider B did the right thing to size up rider A for a lap or so, rider A should have beef with rider B. Rider A changed his game plan, in saying that, it would look totally different to someone watching.

**hayd3n** · 9th December 2010, 19:49

was this at levels last year by any chance?

**lostinflyz** · 9th December 2010, 20:31

at pretty much all practice/have a go days, the responsibility ALWAYS falls on the passing rider, not the rider being passed. a race is a slightly different story but theres not really any reason to force a race move on a practice day that causes a crash.

**sinfull** · 9th December 2010, 20:47

Nobody ! What do i win ?

**Sidewinder** · 9th December 2010, 21:00

you know what they say if its too hot in the kitchen................................

**ellipsis** · 9th December 2010, 22:48

Originally Posted by lostinflyz

at pretty much all practice/have a go days, the responsibility ALWAYS falls on the passing rider, not the rider being passed. a race is a slightly different story but theres not really any reason to force a race move on a practice day that causes a crash.

....racing is about getting ahead of the rider in front...i cant see the point of being pissed off or ..in the wrong...i know im holding up some much faster riders than myself at times, and when they take my line and scoot under me or over me, a mm is as good as a mile...then its up to me not to fuck myself up by riding into them...a bit like swimming with white sharks...they're only dangerous if they eat you......riders that knock other riders off on sighting or warm up laps tho...they're a different story..

**Grumph** · 10th December 2010, 06:09

The onus is always on the overtaking rider to pass safely....even if the dickhead in front changes line this should be factored in and allowed for.

And yes, i know this is great in theory & hard in practise but remember there are only a very few of us who are racing for sheepstations.

**CHOPPA** · 10th December 2010, 06:35

Originally Posted by Grumph

The onus is always on the overtaking rider to pass safely....even if the dickhead in front changes line this should be factored in and allowed for.

And yes, i know this is great in theory & hard in practise but remember there are only a very few of us who are racing for sheepstations.

So am I allowed to change lines when someone is trying to pass me, smash them then say it was there fault? Nope

**CHOPPA** · 10th December 2010, 06:38

Exact same thing happened to me at puke I was passing someone on the outside going into the hairpin, they turned left in the braking area and they went down hard. There fault

**sinfull** · 10th December 2010, 06:41

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Exact same thing happened to me at puke I was passing someone on the outside going into the hairpin, they turned left in the braking area and they went down hard. There fault

Was it on practise day ? lol
Who was it went down ?

Edit : Oh wait you dont have a RH exhaust, as ya were

**avgas** · 10th December 2010, 07:52

Responsible?
Race Track?

I am sorry but WTF! you can't put those too words in the same sentence.

Shit happens on the track.

**FROSTY:Me** · 10th December 2010, 07:53

no guys. Just to be clear. This was a real incident that happened a VERY long time ago. How long ago I don't wanna think about cos it makes me feel really old

**CHOPPA** · 10th December 2010, 07:55

Originally Posted by sinfull

Was it on practise day ? lol
Who was it went down ?

Edit : Oh wait you dont have a RH exhaust, as ya were

Yeah it was a practice day, ripped my exhaust off and I think it ripped his thumb off. Felt sorry for the guy though talked to him since and he is a real nice guy and he is back riding and racing so all good.

It was a track day and there was no passing on the inside prob would have been safer it turns out!