Thursday's Dominion Rd crash killing a biker

[george formby]

It is not invisible and looking with care and trying to see a bike will allow a driver to see it. The eyes would have picked up the bike, but that is not where sight happens - within the brain is where sight happens and within the brain of this car driver the motorcyclist was not seen. How many of us on this site have never had a car driver sorry because he didn't see us? Let's face it - drivers get hit by trains, trucks & buses that they didn't see, there are a lot of careless people in the world and while driving over a tonne of steel & glass they are still careless.

Too often a car driver fails to take due care and a cyclist, motorcyclist, pedestrian or another car driver is killed. This is sad & tragic and without an improvement in how much care people take in a mundane task like operating a motor vehicle - it will continue to happen.

Not that it is fair that they should subsidise us on the ACC levy though, heaven forbid that should happen.

Due care & attention. That about sums up what is required from all road users, all of the time.

[Drunken Monkey]

Multiple eye-witnesses report the bike going down the median and hit the car so hard, the car spun around and back into it's lane. Ignoring any estimates of the bike's speed, surely you'd have to be doing something extremely silly for a 200kg object to shunt a 1200kg object that far - irrespective of whether the car pulled out to make a turn without checking. What was that mangled mess anyway, an FZ/R 1000 or similar?

[george formby]

Multiple eye-witnesses report the bike going down the median and hit the car so hard, the car spun around and back into it's lane. Ignoring any estimates of the bike's speed, surely you'd have to be doing something extremely silly for a 200kg object to shunt a 1200kg object that far - irrespective of whether the car pulled out to make a turn without checking. What was that mangled mess anyway, an FZ/R 1000 or similar?

I did not want to mention it but it doe's look like a helluva impact.

[jasonu]

Here in the states bike headlights must always be on and are set to flash really fast. It is almost impossible not to notice a bike with this flashing headlight, in fact I find it annoying as it can take my attention from other things on the road but I never do not see the bike. As far as I know it is mandatory to have the flashing headlight and it works.

[steelphoenix]

Bike was a silver Yamaha FZR 1989 1000cc.

Rego wasn't blurred on the photos originally.

[Ronin]

Bike was a silver Yamaha FZR 1989 1000cc.

Rego wasn't blurred on the photos originally.

Congrats. You are now as bad as the herald.

Bikers name has not been released as far as I know.


Edit: Well Done

[steelphoenix]

Congrats. You are now as bad as the herald.

Bikers name has not been released as far as I know.


Edit: Well Done

Sorry, mistake with the copy-pasta. My very, very bad.

[dipshit]

I truly believe that there is a problem with HOW drivers look

There is also a problem of too many motorcyclists riding around in heavy traffic like cocks.

[Ronin]

Sorry, mistake with the copy-pasta. My very, very bad.

Sweet as Mate.

Bloody Harold needs a bullit.

[Bikemad]

i consider myself a careful driver but i have nearly taken out a cyclist a couple of years ago as i approached a roundabout going on dusk in the evening...............didnt see him as the front right pillar totally obstructed my view of him.........
dont know the circumstances of this crash..........just sayin sometimes genuine accidents do happen
i feel for the driver,the pillion and family of the rider.........R.I.P

[swbarnett]

When I'm on my Triumph I get very, very few SMIDSYs a year because I'm a big guy on a loud black bike with a black helmet.

I also get very few. I think the type and colour of my fairing stands out to motorists because it looks like a cop bike to them. I'm continually amazed at the number of slower drivers that get out of my way when I come up behind them.


Or maybe it's the dragons on my helmet that scares them?

[Maha]

We need a vigorous marketing campaign encouraging all road users to look carefully at intersections and to verify that there is a completely clear road before proceeding.

Just on this particular point...
Taken from the herald report.

"A moment's carelessness or inattention on anyone's behalf can be tragic within seconds."

The word 'anyone' is poignant here. All due respect, the bike hit the car, not the other way around.
I watched a road safety video a few weeks ago, one part showed the scenario where a bike was riding along and ahead to his left was a car waiting to turn left from a side road. There were cars parked to the bikers left so vision for the car driver was not that great. Now, at this point, the rider could see what the potential was, so he moved, just enough to make sure the car driver could see him...'motion camouflage'...the dragonfly effect.

[rastuscat]

Google Looked But Failed To See.

Also google inattention blindness.

Before it happens, nobody ever believes that they will look but not see an oncoming vehicle. After it happens they can't believe it, but the evidence is there.

Because nobody thinks it will happen to them, the "Look Twice For Bikes" message doesn't get through, as nobody thinks it applies to them, coz they will never not see something.

Bugger, and sorrow at this predictable tragedy. It will be repeated over and over.

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resource...blindness.html

[Quasievil]

I wonder if the car driver who killed the biker would have "seen" a child on a bicycle, or a pretty girl? I wonder whether he'll ever do that again?

I vote a topless chick on all our bikes !!

[avgas]

I will be pissed off if its the same prick whom hit me.......

I fucken bet it is........

Thats it - I'm off for a beer