TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
I’ll give you the whisky, and butteries and perhaps the deep fried Mars bar, the rest were inventions by people who just happened to be Scottish. I don’t have a problem with the Scots, it was just the few who hang on to crap from centuries ago. Every country has them, some more than others.
PS – any news on when decent TV and sealed roads will make it to NZ ?
As an aside,why the hell were we taught other countries' history at school and not our own,well back when I was at both primary and secondary,we got the tokin (read govt speil from education board)but very minimal.
My rant with a born again maori(like them christians,holier than thou)one afternoon in Hawera in my local bar,we had a good debate,no swearing,except he did get louder and made a dick of himself,when I kept asking show me the fine print on treaty.My ignorant on these things is that the wording was passed down verbally from family to family,and we all know the story can change(for better or worse).I asked him if he was such an authority on maori land in the naki,where the armed constabulary stables were in the town,after all we had a few significant areas of history around the area,he dodged the subject as usual and did the "we wus robbed"crap,and said not important,to which I said ah well your loss and learn history,ironically the stables built around 1870 ish were on my grandparents land.
Hello officer put it on my tab
Don't steal the government hates competition.
Yes, quite.
After coming through the education system in the 60's and 70's, I have asked myself the same question.
The answer seems to be that to have presented NZ history in any sort of factual manner would have been to admit/recognise that "other New Zealanders" prosperity in New Zealand has been largely acquired on the back of dis-enfranchisement of Iwi from the political, social, financial, and educational processes. And from there, the possibilities for recognising an alternative way forward might be a bit frightening for those that hold the reins in this country...
Ata marie
Sorry people, I've been tied up in a tangi for a kaumatua since Friday morning .. just read up to date.
Wuill have a think and get back to you.
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Thank You for the update, now I would like to quote myself from an earlier post
"Tell me what it is that Maori want, be specific, don't refer to righting past wrongs, but tell me what Maori want as we as NZers' go forward in the 21st century"
I look forward to furthering my understanding from your reply
Don't judge me based upon your ignorance.
No. It's not hard. Generalities are all that were asked for.
I suppose the difficulty arises in so far as most Maori couldn't give a toss about getting 'their land' back, or self-rule, or whatever. Oh, I'm sure they pay lip service to the concept, but the reality is they are quite happy just the way they are - which could be anything from gainfully employed to 3rd generation bludger...
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
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