ACC protest movement dead?

[superman]

I find it hard to get angry or even interested over Politics.
When you vote you are basically signing a blank cheque for these guys to Mother you along for three years

I was walking down the street last Saturday and Phil Geoff was outside the shop in his Geoff mobile ( he is the local MP).....I bought the Herald and walked on by......

That's apathy in action.

Yes NZ politics are a bit ridiculous. All we do is choose someone who has the closest views to ours (during the election campaign) and then they get 3 years doing what they want with everyones money for all manner of subjects.

At least over in countries like Switzerland any big decision is done via referendum (and binding unlike ours). Therefore the public actually chooses how to progress through a controversial law etc. And if you get I think 50,000 signatures you can force a referendum on whatever you want.

Wish we got that

[Voltaire]

At least over in countries like Switzerland any big decision is done via referendum (and binding unlike ours). Therefore the public actually chooses how to progress through a controversial law etc. And if you get I think 50,000 signatures you can force a referendum on whatever you want.

they could run it like 'Political Idle' or 'The Beehives Got Talent'.....vote them in at election time, get the issues televised and the public could text in to pass bills.

So if your out there Simon Cowan.....you got the idea here....( again).

Imagine the joy of voting Roger Douglas off..... Living ( if you can say he has a heart) proof that MMP is flawed...

[swbarnett]

At least over in countries like Switzerland any big decision is done via referendum (and binding unlike ours).

The other point about Switzerland is that government is based on concensus politics. All political parties work together to find the best solution, rather than fighting to get your own way.

[KelvinAng]

they could run it like 'Political Idle' or 'The Beehives Got Talent'.....

'Political Idle'... a reality competition to see who can idle the most?

+1

[idleidolidyll]

too many soft cocks who didn't want to upset the public.

going for rides to protest government tax increases on bikes is like fucking for prostitution

[Voltaire]

too many soft cocks who didn't want to upset the public.

going for rides to protest government tax increases on bikes is like fucking for prostitution

I can see it now " Harden up Bikers ....buy a Yamaha Virago"

[Maha]

too many soft cocks who didn't want to upset the public.

going for rides to protest government tax increases on bikes is like fucking for prostitution

Probably right Mike, try as we might have a number of times, the end result was, the support was just never really there. My stance on 'organised kaos' has change in recent months. I now have no problem with it at all. Going peacefully does nothing but appease the authorities. 40-50,000 people marched up Queens St earlier in the year on the very same day we did our last protest ride, we had 100 bikes, we had to wait till the greenies had done thier bit and tag on behind them. I have learned alot about protesting and getting results from watching footage of how it was done in years gone by.
I am now off to find short-circuit.

[GOONR]

I am now off to find short-circuit.

[riffer]

I am now off to find short-circuit.

Johnny 5 is alive?

[Katman]

Even I can't be arsed talking people out of rioting in the streets anymore.

If it works for us - well and good.

If it works against us - I'll still be here saying what I've always been saying.

(Oh, that and "I told you so").

[bogan]

(Oh, that and "I told you so").

surely you wouldn't

The trick to organised chaos, is its focus I reckon, aim it to piss off the right people and the public won't get offended, aim it to cause public disruption and it's pretty obvious they won't be happy.

It's the difference between, "those bikers really stuck it to the politicians yesterday" and "those fucking bikers held me up for no good reason yesterday, bunch of bastards"

[Mom]

(Oh, that and "I told you so").

For the record, and so there is no confusion about what MAG-NZ are about. We are sticking to what we have been all along. We will not deliberately set out to cause mayhem, or inconvience people. We will however organise and encourage people to attend events that due to their nature may cause some disruption for Joe Public. We acknowledge that sometimes our actions will cause inconvienience but we do not set out to deliberately cause it.

Hope that is clear to everyone.

[Katman]

After seeing on the news tonight the article on the motorcycle charity ride for the Pike River miners families it occurs to me that before any media coverage of motorcyclists causing huge public disruption reaches the public eye they need first to have been bombarded with coverage of every toy run, every SPCA run, every breast cancer run, every rescue helicopter run etc., so they are well aware of the good things that we get together for.

Any of the afore mentioned runs that slip by without media coverage has to be seen as a fail for us.

[James Deuce]

After seeing on the news tonight the article on the motorcycle charity ride for the Pike River miners families it occurs to me that before any media coverage of motorcyclists causing huge public disruption reaches the public eye they need first to have been bombarded with coverage of every toy run, every SPCA run, every breast cancer run, every rescue helicopter run etc., so they are well aware of the good things that we get together for.

Any of the afore mentioned runs that slip by without media coverage has to be seen as a fail for us.

You'll be a media communications consultant before you know it.

[Katman]

You'll be a media communications consultant before you know it.

I say fuck too often.