Pilot Pures

[DEATH_INC.]

Personally I'm not hooked on 'em, and won't buy them again. Seems to be plenty of grip (both on the road and track), but they feel ....... well ..... like there's no feel. Kinda hard to explain really.
But then I'm not a Michelin person. Didn't really like the powers that came on the bike either.

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah I'm interested to see how they perform, as I've always enjoyed Michelins.

[Marmoot]

Forgot about this thread.

Tried the Pures on HD track last month, and I'm in between of being impressed as well as being 'meh'.

It is so much better than the Pirelli Rosso in terms of grip, warmup time, and feel. But I would agree with D up there that, relatively, it lacks proper feeling for serious track rider. It is very hard to tell whether I am nearing the tyre's grip limit (and lean angle) or not, unlike Bridgestones or Pirellis (except Rosso) that I tried.
So, saying that, it would be hard to say "just ride sensibly and you'll be right" without being too slow for the Fast or Medium-Fast group.
I think the Pures would be perfectly OK for Slow and Slow-Medium group, though.

And while it is a superb tyre, it is no Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Pro. But, then again, the Pures' price is great (compared to Supercorsa Pro's $750) and the durability-vs-grip for the road is excellent.

Although, someone once told me expensive tyres are cheap insurance.

Would I buy it again?
If I ride mostly on the road then yes.
If I ride purely on the track then no.
If I do half-half, I'd go for next step up if I have the money.
If I use the bike for commuting, then definitely a yes.

[DEATH_INC.]

So, saying that, it would be hard to say "just ride sensibly and you'll be right" without being too slow for the Fast or Medium-Fast group.

I ran 'em around hamton at a 'more than fast enough for the fast group' pace without any issues. But I agree, as a track only tyre they leave a bit to be desired.

[Marmoot]

I ran 'em around hamton at a 'more than fast enough for the fast group' pace without any issues. But I agree, as a track only tyre they leave a bit to be desired.

Yea mate. Not saying there's a problem with the grip.
Just the niggling feeling about not knowing for sure where the limit is and whether I'm starting to go too fast for the tyres or not.
Normally, in such situation, I would only find out about the limit when I cross it (and that's why it's not so good).

[skidz07]

have a set on now have done 6000k on them yep they nearly shagged but they aint square yet either. have found with these tyres you need to fettle with your suspension as there is the weight differance to take into account. have been running my rear @ 41psi & the front @ 36psi this seems to work a treat. have had no grip issues in wet @ all these hoops seem to be the bees knees once you have worked your suspension out. bloody hard trye to fault

[Dazza]

have a set on now have done 6000k on them yep they nearly shagged but they aint square yet either. have found with these tyres you need to fettle with your suspension as there is the weight differance to take into account. have been running my rear @ 41psi & the front @ 36psi this seems to work a treat. have had no grip issues in wet @ all these hoops seem to be the bees knees once you have worked your suspension out. bloody hard trye to fault

I would agree with the above, I was running my rear @ 38psi & she would've lasted to 5000 but replaced the rear with a Pilot Road 2CT for the SI trip & fitted a new pure to the front which I think will be the combination I'll be running for a while.

[SVboy]

I am running some race scrubbed ones on the gsxr and, while i dont like them as much as the 2ct's, have no rreason to complain......just not the "feel" of the 2cts? watch this space!

[skidz07]

what the hell is going on out there in scoota land i must be a muppet cos i cant understand why lots of you run such low pressure in your hoops if you guys are ride`n on the road what`s the benefit, what do you get out of running 'FLAT' tyres??? yes i understand that your tyres heat up but the manufacture allows for this when they make the jolly things so why do people insist on running low pressure ??? the other thing is if you ride in the rain with low pressure the tread is not as open & will not disperse water as well as if you had say 40psi which opens the tread & allows it to do its job bettera job ( i say 40psi cos i talk of 190 section tyres)
PLEASE HELP

[skidz07]

I am running some race scrubbed ones on the gsxr and, while i dont like them as much as the 2ct's, have no rreason to complain......just not the "feel" of the 2cts? watch this space!

why not svboy they are softer than your normal 2ct & are the same shape.remember these tyres are lighter so there is less unsprung weight maybe try set your suspension up to suit & if you too run low pressure have a stab @ beefing it up a little................... go on be a devil hahaha

[MD]

Just picked myself up a new pair of the pures today. Yet to put them back on the bike so I can't comment on them yet, other than the price. $468 fitted to the bike.

Same here. I got a special offer of a pair for $450. I put the front on my new Tiger a few weeks ago before doing my annual Sth Island tour. I got half way round the SI and had to replace the rear with a PP2CT (limited choices in Greymouth on a weekend). So I wont get the rear Pure on until I've worn out this PP.

I tried a Pure on the front of the D675 and liked it. Probably just in my mind but the front seemed to feel lighter - for the better I mean. Easier to turn and I swear the front wheel was even more eager to lift off. Couldn't normally pull a wheelie in 3rd without lots of clutch and a purpose built ramp. But with the Pure on I was surprised to get a 'no clutch flick needed' wheelie under way in 3rd on a slight rise.

Possibly...but my minds not made up on this yet, the softer sides on the Pure may wear a bit faster than others, such as the Conti Sports Attacks I've been using. I sold the D675 before I had a chance to wear the Pure out, so it's too soon to make a call on tyre life yet.

I'm happy with the level of hard cornering grip and feedback form the Pure. I didn't get to try it on the track though

[doc]

I put the front on my new Tiger a few weeks ago before doing my annual Sth Island tour. I was surprised to get a 'no clutch flick needed' wheelie under way in 3rd on a slight rise.

Wasn't you on the Lime green one, with exhausts under the seat, about to go up the hill just leaving picton ?

[MD]

Wasn't you on the Lime green one, with exhausts under the seat, about to go up the hill just leaving picton ?

Not me. Mine's black.

[SVboy]

why not svboy they are softer than your normal 2ct & are the same shape.remember these tyres are lighter so there is less unsprung weight maybe try set your suspension up to suit & if you too run low pressure have a stab @ beefing it up a little................... go on be a devil hahaha

Been on the track, road scratching and on some road trips. Tyres havnt put a foot wrong, but I dont realy like them. I agree-fit Pures and you need to play with the suspension. Still a PP2ct fan! Have not played with pressures apart from track-[31f 31-29r] Felt 'nervous' at the track and did not inspire confidence to reall lean it over.
On the rough Akaroa hill, same feeling until I backed off front preload and comp f and r. With softer settings, nice on a cruise over to the Woodstock rally that included some really wet bits!

[NZsarge]

$468 fitted to the bike.

Same here. I got a special offer of a pair for $450.

Jeez I wish someone would offer me tires I liked at those prices, I paid $570 + fitting and thought I was doing ok...
My set last about 5000 km give or take a little bit, big bike with an even bigger bloke on it so... Wasn't loving the front at the end of it's life though, kept feeling like it wanted to tuck under in tight corners which i've never had issues with before. On the + side they wore nice and even which is what I was hoping they'd do but it might also be due to the suspension upgrades the bike had undergone not long before fitting as the standard Pilot Powers i've slipped on now seem to be wearing pretty well too (evenly) giving that before all the P Power's i've run before have gutted the centre...