Yet another Coromandel fatality

[DIN PELENDA]

You trolling.This is KB. Assumption = fact

another assumption at this stage i'm afraid. until you have read an accident investigation report, or were there, you are completely unqualified to rule out environmental factors or mechanical failure.

only when we are able to state with certainty that it was solely caused by the rider should we be attributing blame.

We don't, but since when has that stopped the KB clan

Speed wont be a problem for the rider who committed vehicular homicide, maybe consequence will kick him as hard as it kicked his victim, who knows?

Plenty of my and your money will go into patching him up and send him on his way and rightly so, shyt the rights of the murdering fuck is what we protested for aye?
Like fuck it did!!

Hi Spearfish STFU !!! If you not there why making assumptions and call someone murder.

[phill-k]

Hi Spearfish STFU !!! If you not there why making assumptions and call someone murder.

If I was a gambling man I'd put my money on Spearfishes determination, how often have you heard of a motorcycle "accident" being blamed on mechanical failure in the last five years, as apposed to fucktards riding beyond their skills if in fact they even had any.

[Tink]

Plenty of testiness around here... make like a lady and leave you boys to it.

Din "take care" it can't be easy!

[igor]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10697765

[DIN PELENDA]

OK even serious crash unit is making assumption by saying "it look like one of bikers", It was not tight corner (there was some before that and after that corner) but more of sweeper so in my judgment it was good place to pass car that were going way below speed limit so speed was not factor, OK one was passing car (number of time I pass car with out crossing center line). I'm not blaming or protecting anyone as I new both of riders but it was one of freaky accident and both riders meet in middle of road, Mark bike did not cross center line but his body was close or over center line, it is not for me or you guys to decide who fault is it, leave to SCU to decide. Other guy wont learn from it as he wont even remember what happened as he is got head and lot of other injures, he be lucky (or unlucky) to be alive. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/holi...mbs-11-3990347

[BoristheBiter]

But there was fault. If the cock stayed within his skills and lane, the other rider wouldn't have been killed and this thread wouldn't exist.

Let he without sin throw the first stone.

We all at sometime have fucked up, had that arse puckering moment when things could go really bad real fast but don't.

If you are that great a rider that you have never made a mistake while riding then you should go join a racing team if not then you really do need to look at what you have said in you post.

[Argyle]

Choose your places to hammer the road, the coro loop is not the place during holiday season...

R.I.P, Condolences to whoever his peers might be...

[oldrider]

Sadness aside, my anonymous reaction was "shit, not another bloody nail in our ACC coffin"!

Wake up motorcyclists FFS wake up!

[Spearfish]

Hi Spearfish STFU !!! If you not there why making assumptions and call someone murder.

If the survivor was your mate then I can understand your point of view.
Maybe something unique did happen to him and he had absolutely no way of correcting it or his attempt at correction went very wrong.
Like you say the experts will piece it together. Maybe it was just a happenstance.


Funny how many of the serious crash unit members ride and ride often, you have to wonder why considering they work and study so many of the hideous results of so-called victims of circumstance.
I don't know about you but that gives me some confidence.

[marty]

i've hosed and picked up, quite frankly, too much brain material and blood off the road from bikers who have run out of skill/luck/stupidity, yet i still ride.

Admittedly i have toned down the cc capacity, but that was more of a cost issue than anything.

it's just the way it is.

[yungatart]

If you are that great a rider that you have never made a mistake while riding then you should go join a racing team if not then you really do need to look at what you have said in you post.

Since when did being a "good rider" equate with being a "fast rider"?
There are plenty of 'fast' riders who lack skill and plenty of 'good' riders who are not necessarily racing material.

Somebody fucked up (for whatever reason), someone is dead and someone else is fighting for their life as a result of that.

It doesn't portray riding in a good light, does it?

[mokomoa]

The ammount of bikes and cars etc crossing the centre line is out of control!
EVERY1, BIKES ESPECIALLY STAY THE FUCK LEFT!

Fuck this has always fuckin pissed me off.

[Shaun]

There is a man Dead, and another extremmelly hurt!!!!!!


Why do you folk have to get on here Type what you think about it

[MSTRS:Me]

OK even serious crash unit is making assumption by saying "it look like one of bikers", It was not tight corner (there was some before that and after that corner) but more of sweeper so in my judgment it was good place to pass car that were going way below speed limit so speed was not factor, OK one was passing car (number of time I pass car with out crossing center line). I'm not blaming or protecting anyone as I new both of riders but it was one of freaky accident and both riders meet in middle of road, Mark bike did not cross center line but his body was close or over center line, it is not for me or you guys to decide who fault is it, leave to SCU to decide.

I'm not quite following you here. Are you saying that both riders were on the centreline? The rider who was killed was therefore running a tight line in a right-hander (for him) and the other rider was lanesplitting? How open a sweeper could the corner be, if one or both of the riders couldn't see approaching vehicles?

Let he without sin throw the first stone.

We all at sometime have fucked up, had that arse puckering moment when things could go really bad real fast but don't.

If you are that great a rider that you have never made a mistake while riding then you should go join a racing team if not then you really do need to look at what you have said in you post.

You're right. I've done some stupid shit too. Not looking where I was going was the only one that saw me involved in a prang, so maybe I've just been lucky when I've made a cock-up other times. Whatever - I was responsible for those cock-ups, no-one else, and I'd like to think that recognising that makes me a better rider by not repeating the same kind of cock-up twice. And no, it doesn't make me a candidate for racing...I'm slow in those terms. Chances are, I will make some sort of cock-up in the future too - despite everything I've learned I don't know it all.

Choose your places to hammer the road, the coro loop is not the place during holiday season...

Absolutely. But no-one is saying that 'hammering' is what was going on...just bad roadcraft.

[blackdog]

Read an article to-day where they were talking about mandatory prison sentencing for people that don't stop for the police, at long last if its true perhaps we will begin to get on top of......

another 'abandoned' chase this morning resulting in fatality

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4512...fleeing-police