Buy from NZ? I tried but come on...

[imdying]

Appreciate the post mate, but it's a bit light on details. You reckon Blue Wing buys it for $100 and sells it to the dealer for $500?

[Ocean1]

will drop a dozen beers.

Yus! Good man. Beer is good!

And non-taxable!

[Ocean1]

I can assure you that the mark-up for motorcycle clothing and accessory retailers is nothing like that figure.

P'raps not for the retailer, but the fact remains I paid NZ$400 for top-of-the-line Apinestar jacket in San Francisco that I've seen here for three times that price.

It wasn't even on special. And the economies of scale thing don't come anywhere near explaining that level of discrepency.

I reckon the most likely culprits would be the ones who've got the market cornered, the ones with a monopoly.

[ynot slow]

So does everyone bitch and moan about the price they're expected to pay for their furniture?

I can assure you that the mark-up for motorcycle clothing and accessory retailers is nothing like that figure.

Yep they don't,but as the store owner pays the finance companies for interest free monies,or when they have a "sale"when goods are "discounted",almost puts item at a normal(60%)margin for cash purchases.

Funny how clothes used to be 100% plus mark up and bike gear(similar apparel)is/isn't depending who you talk to,i.e retailer not much mark up,or buyer:seems to be too expensive I'll suss out sizing and buy online,or buy overseas.

[98tls]

I love the irony of bikers who think on one hand its fine to spend your money oveseas to avoid margins/markups and tax... but on the other expect the Govt and taxpayers of NZ to pay for better roads and ACC.
Less money spent here= less businesses= less jobs= less Govt tax intake= less Govt spending
Correct me if I'm seeing that wrong....

Love the irony of anyone thinking that in this day and age spending your hard earned here will result in here being any better off,nice thought shit its almost romantic but na its not the reality living in NZ these days.The biggest part of tax or anything else you care to mention of your hard earned will go to some form of Welfare payment to A someone not from here B someone from here but either to lazy to be bothered working or making to much money to bother working,either way i will happily continue to purchase my motorcycling bits a 1/3rd of the price overseas with no guilt whatsoever.

[Robbo]

If you want to crucify the real crooks here look no further than the likes of Suzuki NZ, Triumph NZ and Bluewing Honda.

The rest of us are just trying to survive.

So true Katman. Triumph NZ wanted $430 for a replacement headlight for the Speedy. Got one from Repco for $36 Coincidently it was branded the same as my original one although it could have been an aftermarket copy from somewhere in Asia but it still does the same job.
I still however, will not shop overseas as i make my income from the NZ market and think it's only fair to put my money back into it. I just shop wisely.

[AD345]

I There is only so much money in circulation and it would be better put to use in industries that are productive, generate export income and carry people along with it.
.

Yep

And motorcycle parts and accessories retailing ain't one of tem

[Coldrider]

I love the irony of bikers who think on one hand its fine to spend your money oveseas to avoid margins/markups and tax... but on the other expect the Govt and taxpayers of NZ to pay for better roads and ACC.
Less money spent here= less businesses= less jobs= less Govt tax intake= less Govt spending
Correct me if I'm seeing that wrong....

The money spent overseas is the money that was going there anyway, without the rip off part staying in NZ, or yeah, that part goes overseas too, on the Q7 and the wifes X5, gotta look good in business, with the help of the accountant minimising taxable income for the company, and how many companies are failing to pay the GST to the IRD that has been paid by their faithful customers.

[Coldrider]

Attention off topic retards. This isn't a thread about retailers running their business to whatever model they see fit. This is a thread about what happens when you join the Honda family. When you do that in NZ, by buying a new bike, you're not welcomed into the family at all, you're treated like a handicapped second cousin and arse raped for all you're worth. The only question is, who's the rapist, Blue Wing, or Honda Japan?

My Kwaka has needed 1 (one, un, uno, didley squat) genuine Kawasaki part in 10 years of its ownership (rear cush drive).
But kawasaki is the black sheep of the family.

[Voltaire]

Love the irony of anyone thinking that in this day and age spending your hard earned here will result in here being any better off,nice thought shit its almost romantic but na its not the reality living in NZ these days.The biggest part of tax or anything else you care to mention of your hard earned will go to some form of Welfare payment to A someone not from here B someone from here but either to lazy to be bothered working or making to much money to bother working,either way i will happily continue to purchase my motorcycling bits a 1/3rd of the price overseas with no guilt whatsoever.

I was trying to look on the bright side........

[98tls]

I was trying to look on the bright side........

Fair call,as you should mate.Ignore me.

[Voltaire]

The money spent overseas is the money that was going there anyway, without the rip off part staying in NZ, or yeah, that part goes overseas too, on the Q7 and the wifes X5, gotta look good in business, with the help of the accountant minimising taxable income for the company, and how many companies are failing to pay the GST to the IRD that has been paid by their faithful customers.

You must find it hard to spend any money here.... the local dairy owner and his BMW...the bottle shop owner and his Porsche.....
Its pretty hard to avoid GST unless your a cash business....bloody hairdressers and their Ferraris.....

[98tls]

You must find it hard to spend any money here.... the local dairy owner and his BMW...the bottle shop owner and his Porsche.....
Its pretty hard to avoid GST unless your a cash business....bloody hairdressers and their Ferraris.....

A few 4/2 some clearlite panels and bingo,GST avoided.

[Coldrider]

You must find it hard to spend any money here.... the local dairy owner and his BMW...the bottle shop owner and his Porsche.....
Its pretty hard to avoid GST unless your a cash business....bloody hairdressers and their Ferraris.....

Retailers bleating about overseas competition and GST avoidance, mate who are the tax payers in this country?

[Juzz976]

I wonder what would happen if loacal retailers had the balls to tell brands that have their products available at significantly lower prices elsewhere they'd no longer stock/promote their gear.

If you remove the ability for people to try for size then import or even just the reduced advertising for these brands they may consider giving the dealers a fairer market to compete in.

I would not support any brand that is willing to bypass their large account holders to sell to the public at the same or less than they'd sell to their dealers.

Basically they're using the dealers as free advertising and try for size for their products.