Unwarranted motorcyclist clocked at 204 km/h

[Berries]

Dude...i think you know what she means, and if you don't, your another i would be worried about running into out there on the road.

I would have thought 200k on any road would be taking somewhat of a large risk. Done it myself and i know it's probably not the best thing to be doing. I'm not that deluded.

And you didn't die, which was my point.

[Grumph]

I would have thought 200k on any road would be taking somewhat of a large risk. Done it myself and i know it's probably not the best thing to be doing. I'm not that deluded.[/QUOTE]

Have you actually been South and seen canterbury roads ? A very good case could be made for higher local speed limits around the South Island. Your local roads between Puke and Auckland, yeah, sure, twisty,100k max OK.

When Helen Clark got hauled over the coals for speeding between Timaru and ChCh I had to laugh - there's only around 9 curves in the whole distance.

[Smifffy]

Whilst the speeds are acceptable in other countries I would suggest the roads in those places are better than many of ours, anyone care to comment, preferably someone with experience on these countries roads.

Exactly so, and when TPTB are advised that improving the state of the nation's roads will do more to reduce the road toll than the revenue gathering enforcement efforts, they trot out more propaganda articles like the OP.

I've long made the point about the Tauranga toll road and its woeful under-utilisation.

Here we have a newish straight length of road designed to cut the commute time. It was built at a time when just about everything to know about safe driving/riding surfaces was known, and it is deserted many times.

The reason? It doesn't reduce the commute time. I'd wager that if they set the limit for the majority of that piece of road at 120 km/h and strictly enforced it, they would get plenty more takers. Maybe some of them wouldn't even crash.

[SMOKEU]

As the driver, or a passenger? You really ought to furnish up a few more details, maybe I could get an understanding of what it's like to go at those speeds, and I can stop being a nanna, and more like a a baby sucking on the teat of mother's milk.

Anything I do say may be used as evidence in court.

[Grubber]

{Have you actually been South and seen canterbury roads ? A very good case could be made for higher local speed limits around the South Island. Your local roads between Puke and Auckland, yeah, sure, twisty,100k max OK.}


Lived and rode down there for 20 years. Thats' my local stomping ground. Wouldn't consider the lack of bends an invite to do 200k plus on state highway 1. Plenty of country side roads lead of it and plenty of traffic ( especially over Xmas). Doubt if one could call it ideal speeding material and certainly not 200k plus area. For people to condone it would be totally irresponsible i would have thought. Law says it's not so we have to deal with that if nothing else. I think it did sate that this character was overtaking vehicles, this means there was traffic. Not the best thing to be doing under the circumstances.
I'm not so hypocritical that i would say I've never been fast, but i do select my areas very carefully. Speeds such as 200k has been on a track for the most part.

[Grubber]

And you didn't die, which was my point.

Unbelievable. No i didn't, but i did increase the risk by untold ammounts of dying for both myself and other raod users at the time. Once again, i'm not that deluded.

Perhaps you wouldn't mind if i stood about 30 metres away from you and threw a large steak knife at you. You may not die but would you like to take the risk??

[Berries]

Unbelievable. No i didn't, but i did increase the risk by untold ammounts of dying for both myself and other raod users at the time. Once again, i'm not that deluded.

Perhaps you wouldn't mind if i stood about 30 metres away from you and threw a large steak knife at you. You may not die but would you like to take the risk??

As I originally said, he was stupid for doing those speeds when other vehicles were around, and on those straights was asking to get pulled over and banned. I wouldn’t have wanted to be around him, nor would I want to stand in front of someone throwing a steak knife (???)

As for your first point, I agree that as you increase your speed you increase the risk. I don’t buy in to the fact that speed alone is bad though, and as a member of the 200+ club yourself I am not sure why you are getting so upset about it.

[Katman]

Maybe the government should only allow 250's on the road, that would be funny.

Many a prophetic word is said in jest.

Be careful what you wish for.

[Genie]

Many a true word is said in jest.

Be careful what you wish for.

We a bit safe for the time being....John Key doesn't quite fit the Hitler scenerio.

Communism just isn't quite what it used to be, unless you live in North Korea.

[oneofsix]

We a bit safe for the time being....John Key doesn't quite fit the Hitler scenerio.

Communism just isn't quite what it used to be, unless you live in North Korea.

How about that Italian bloke Mussolini what smiled and waved a lot and thought he could run with the big boys. I could see smiling John in that role

[Genie]

How about that Italian bloke Mussolini what smiled and waved a lot and thought he could run with the big boys. I could see smiling John in that role

Yeah and what happened to him? Poor Italy.

[willytheekid]

We really don't know either way here, folks are keen to give the rider the benefit of the doubt that the bike was in suitable condition to hold a w.o.f or the bike could have been in similar condition to the example I used simply put we don't know. My personal experience allows me to link the two, yours does not.

I do not understand some folks logic that a w.o.f is a tax, sure they are valid for either 1 year or 6 months and things can change of a period of time but it is a test to see that a vehicle meets a minimum set of requirements to operated on the roads, any w.o.f inspector will have examples of vehicles seen that should not be driven let alone near a road, yet the owners will argue black is white that the vehicles are perfectly safe.

How about thinking of a w.o.f along the lines of scrutinering, it ensures all bikes on the track meet a minimum safety requirement for racing.



Its not my position, but the position of many here, they wanted lower ACC costs and complain bitterly about them yet still rego their bikes, they must as there seems to have been no huge drop in the number of registered bikes.

Granted there are folks who just like riding, and wont give a rats arse but there in lies part of the problem, I bet there are thousands of car drivers who really dont give a rats arse about any of the politics and BS around roading, rego, w.o.f, etc yet are members of the AA (which motorcyclists have no equivalent of here), even if just for the roadside assistance programme, this gives the AA numbers as it lobby's government, on their behalf and remember they have in the past held the position that motorcycles should be off the roads.

{Have you actually been South and seen canterbury roads ? A very good case could be made for higher local speed limits around the South Island. Your local roads between Puke and Auckland, yeah, sure, twisty,100k max OK.}


Lived and rode down there for 20 years. Thats' my local stomping ground. Wouldn't consider the lack of bends an invite to do 200k plus on state highway 1. Plenty of country side roads lead of it and plenty of traffic ( especially over Xmas). Doubt if one could call it ideal speeding material and certainly not 200k plus area. For people to condone it would be totally irresponsible i would have thought. Law says it's not so we have to deal with that if nothing else. I think it did sate that this character was overtaking vehicles, this means there was traffic. Not the best thing to be doing under the circumstances.
I'm not so hypocritical that i would say I've never been fast, but i do select my areas very carefully. Speeds such as 200k has been on a track for the most part.

Glad to see some KBers with commonsense.

The guys are riding like tools...simple as that!
To ignore the facts and support these riders and their actions?...little own defend them??
Were not Angels or perfect...but I didnt think we were idiots...or supported them!

[yod]

...little own defend them??

[StoneY]

I thought that Charlie Lamb and others had fairly comprehensively proved those statements, which were trotted out as part of the defense to the ripoff ACC levy rego rise, were not supported by the evidence? Lies you might say. Political motivation to get legislate motorcycles out of existence you might think.

Dr Chaz disproved the statement '18x more LIKLEY to have a serious accident' as we crash far less often than they PTB try to convince people of
I was at his public address last May at Cashmere club

The way that cop worded it is not really disputable because were are in fact 18x more likely to be SERIOUSLY HURT in serious crashes sadly
Stats back that statement up especially in cases of 100kmh+ incidents on rural roads


Been a bone in my throat for 2 years as well, but at least this cop used the right terminology this time so maybe...maybe some of them are starting to get it
These two doing that speed on SH1 are muppets...save it for the Gladstone loop LOL

(personal opinion of course )

[Pixie]

"The threat that these motorcyclists present to themselves and other road users is similar to firing a gun down the road and not really caring if it hits someone.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...699284&ref=rss

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"The threat that these motorcyclists present to themselves and other road users is similar to a member of the NZ Police firing a gun down the road