Paeroa Battle of the Streets, Sunday 20 February 2011.

[avgas]

I agree with Chop! You can't tell me that every bike parked in the paddock and everyone walking around with a helmet doesn't know who Stroud etc is and wants to see him or the other well known names either win or loose??

They/We make up most of the crowd and if they/we stop coming because the good guys aren't there well ???

Then I dare you to stage a coup.
Don't turn up.
All of you can sit round looking at a Stroud calendar in a shed while the rest of us will watch some fantastic racing of the "b" riders around a exciting road circuit.

I am going for the sport and the event. Before Stroud there was Rees, before then there was Holden...... Riders come and go - but the BOS has never been boring.

I would rather pay for 10 b grade riders that have "potential" than 1 a grade who could fuck up anyway. This is Battle of the Streets - not some BS trackday nana shit - man up or go home.

[Reckless]

Then I dare you to stage a coup.
Don't turn up.
All of you can sit round looking at a Stroud calendar in a shed while the rest of us will watch some fantastic racing of the "b" riders around a exciting road circuit.

I am going for the sport and the event. Before Stroud there was Rees, before then there was Holden...... Riders come and go - but the BOS has never been boring.

I would rather pay for 10 b grade riders that have "potential" than 1 a grade who could fuck up anyway. This is Battle of the Streets - not some BS trackday nana shit - man up or go home.

Jeepers mate you havin a bad day?? It was only an opinion! WTF was that rant about??

FFS of coarse I'll still go if Stroud isn't there but I meant what I said in agreeing with Choppa it would be bad for the event if all the big names decided not to come!
And I did say

Stroud etc

and

the other well known names

why the heck would you think I had a bloody Stroud calander??

I actually go to watch pre89 and pre82 as my first choice, watching Sean and Glen Williams ride??

Why you would fixate on Strouds name in my post when the tone of the Chops and my answer was generally about recognising top riders, if the crowd generally had knowledge they where racing and if they would be missed if they didn't??

My opinion agreeing with Chop stands! it would be not good if all the big names (or "the fast guys there" as Chop put it) decided not to go to Paeroa!!

Nuff said!

[scott411]

And talking to the stockcar boys at work............they get PAID to turn up and do skids alot of the time, not a huge amount but enough to cover gas or something, they couldn't believe what I was paying to enter races.

Show how different our sport is, go to any stockcar meet and they're always well packed with spectators.

i run a saloon car out of huntly and other tracks when i get a chance, , we are not a premier class so we do not get travel money, but entries are free,

big difference in set up tho, promotors get a lot more say in the running of the whole show,

but imagine turning up to an event and getting no practice, thats what it is like in speedway,

[Deano]

Cant believe people didnt pick up on this but went on the typical tangent of bleating

Thanks Brett - can you see that the organisers do not have forklifts or hoists behind bales inside the fencing, and can the bales be tied down ? I understand that this caused some serious injuries last year when a rider slid under the bales and into a forklift/hoist.

[avgas]

Sorry Reckless - not really a bad day. I am just getting sick of the KB whingathon.
I am getting sick of all those saying "well I am not going because so-and-so won't be racing".
Only to turn up - and low and behold there they are.

Still deciding on if they are being lemmings whom need their hand held or full of shit.
People go to Paeroa, to watch the racing.
Very few go for the top racers alone.

[avgas]

Hey Brett any chance we could get an announcer who is clearly spoken. The mumbling speakers of the past always pick the worst time to talk (during the race) and never get to the point.

[gixerracer]

Thanks Brett - can you see that the organisers do not have forklifts or hoists behind bales inside the fencing, and can the bales be tied down ? I understand that this caused some serious injuries last year when a rider slid under the bales and into a forklift/hoist.

Yea it was one of my mate in the bears practice this happened to and is also one of the main reasons im not going to race there again, that and im too old and dont enjoy it anymore haha

[gixerracer]

Sorry Reckless - not really a bad day. I am just getting sick of the KB whingathon.
I am getting sick of all those saying "well I am not going because so-and-so won't be racing".
Only to turn up - and low and behold there they are.

Still deciding on if they are being lemmings whom need their hand held or full of shit.
People go to Paeroa, to watch the racing.
Very few go for the top racers alone.

Who has said they are not racing and then turned up. I doubt any of the top boys would say this and then go back on it??

[Reckless]

Sorry Reckless - not really a bad day. I am just getting sick of the KB whingathon.
I am getting sick of all those saying "well I am not going because so-and-so won't be racing".
Only to turn up - and low and behold there they are.

Still deciding on if they are being lemmings whom need their hand held or full of shit.
People go to Paeroa, to watch the racing.
Very few go for the top racers alone.

Cheers Mate! Takes a big man to apologize -- Bling sent!!

Probably just another KB thread assuming things as well.
But I do get chop's point, he possibly feels as if they don't go and he wins its not the same therefore maybe him and others won't go? I dunno, don't know him well enough to speculate but if 1 rider doesn't go their choice, but if 5 (or more) all stay away thats not going to be good? Your probably correct and it won't happen!!

Anyway I'll be there pit bitching for my friend. cheers mate!!

[Gone Burger]

I'll be there pit bitching for my friend. cheers mate!!

I'll be there lapping it all up... overwhelmend, excited, in awe, quietly watching, trying to take it all in with a huge smile on my face the whole time - Will be good to catch up with ya reckless, will come find you and the team in the Pits.

[Roger]

Who has said they are not racing and then turned up. I doubt any of the top boys would say this and then go back on it??

Yeah, that would be right. The whole thing is a bloody shambles & the organisation is at an all time low.
Competitors have been ringing up for late entries & been getting abused for their trouble.
This year, for the first time, i will be attending the air show at Mount Maunganui instead, & suggest all other motorcyclists do the same.
For your information, their will only be two competitive sidecars there & a lot of old clunkers & no classic sidecars.

Theres always one aye.

[Quasievil]

Thanks Brett - can you see that the organisers do not have forklifts or hoists behind bales inside the fencing, and can the bales be tied down ? I understand that this caused some serious injuries last year when a rider slid under the bales and into a forklift/hoist.

Dude my capacity is the sponsor not the promoter or organiser.

[Deano]

Yea it was one of my mate in the bears practice this happened to and is also one of the main reasons im not going to race there again, that and im too old and dont enjoy it anymore haha

Haha - You said to me once when I started racing at age 36 - "you're never too old"

I imagine street racing is less enjoyable and more work on a SBK as opposed to an F3bike though.

[Deano]

Dude my capacity is the sponsor not the promoter or organiser.

But you said.....

Hiya Shane, im interested to know what you think would make that better, Im not being a smart arse here either.
I (in my Mobil capacity) am with the company who is the main sponsor of the event it is now called "Mobil 1 Battle of the Streets Paeroa", and as Motorsport manager for Mobil Im keen to do what I can to enable things to be better at the rider level.....................if I can.

The above was in response to -

Then theres the dangerous nature of the track and despite generating a good amount of cash little seems to make it back to the sport.

So what did you mean by that ? Safety is certainly within the context of your reply.

I'm sure that Mobil would not wish to be associated as lead sponsor for an event that was found to be dangerous, and organisers could have done more to keep racers safe ?

Imagine if Police/coroner findings slammed the event due to a death or bad accident....would Mobil be pleased as the main sponsor ? Especially after last year ?

Surely Mobil (and you as motorsport manager) have some say in the running of the event and safety when it could result in negative publicity ? At the end of the day it's Mobil's money supporting the event. Thats a lot of leverage surely ?

[Quasievil]

But you said.....



The above was in response to -




So what did you mean by that ? Safety is certainly within the context of your reply.

I'm sure that Mobil would not wish to be associated as lead sponsor for an event that was found to be dangerous, and organisers could have done more to keep racers safe ?

Imagine if Police/coroner findings slammed the event due to a death or bad accident....would Mobil be pleased as the main sponsor ? Especially after last year ?

Surely Mobil (and you as motorsport manager) have some say in the running of the event and safety when it could result in negative publicity ? At the end of the day it's Mobil's money supporting the event. Thats a lot of leverage surely ?

okay Point taken, I will raise it at my meeting with them on Monday.....just for you, I was referring to things like prize money and attractions for the riders like that things in our control and brief.
If I was concerned about Motorsport and danger being associated with the Mobil 1 brand we would have to withdraw support from F1, nascar as well as every form of motorsport on the planet.