Exactly how far out of touch...

[Smifffy]

Sounds a little bit too much like feudal Europe for my taste.

I also shudder to think what the country would be like when in days of boom, the like of Petrecivic et al would be calling the shots in Parliament.

No thanks.

Even though I would probably have more votes than anyone in my street, but probably less votes than anyone in your street.

[Smifffy]

Why would you want to trade your votes for cash? Politics should be about deciding what services a government provides for citizens and to what level. Politicians should consult with voters about that and then be guided by the wishes of a majority. When was the last time any political party asked you how much tax you should pay and what you'd like it spent on?

Voting only seems to encourage them.

[Latte]

Why would you want to trade your votes for cash? Politics should be about deciding what services a government provides for citizens and to what level. Politicians should consult with voters about that and then be guided by the wishes of a majority. When was the last time any political party asked you how much tax you should pay and what you'd like it spent on?

From memory the top 8% tax payers pay more tax than the rest of the country combined, with a system that ties votes to tax paid (your idea) they would also have more voting power than the rest of the country combined.

What would be the chances of people in the same socio-economic bracket (rich) voting for the same people?.

Ergo my votes would be useless, mayas well by a new Ducati each year instead of piss my votes against a wall.

Thats why I'd want to trade my votes for cash.

[steve_t]

I'd like to see a taxation system where you get 1 vote for every $10,000 tax you pay. If you're not a taxpayer i.e. a beneficiary whose income comes entirely from other taxpayers, then you don't get a vote. Why should we have a system that allows takers to take more by giving them the ability to vote for political parties that support and perpetuate that ethos? My enhanced system would actually provide an incentive for people to pay more tax, particularly if your total contribution was close to a $10,000 trigger point that gained you one more vote.

Hitcher for PM!

Didn't it used to be that you had to own land/property to be entitled to vote? In saying that, if that became the way the Presbyterian Church and Tainui would be a massive majority here in the Waikato...

[Smifffy]

From memory the top 8% tax payers pay more tax than the rest of the country combined, with a system that ties votes to tax paid (your idea) they would also have more voting power than the rest of the country combined.

What would be the chances of people in the same socio-economic bracket (rich) voting for the same people?.

Ergo my votes would be useless, mayas well by a new Ducati each year instead of piss my votes against a wall.

Thats why I'd want to trade my votes for cash.

But surely the business round table led "coalition" would let the rest of us eat cake?

[Smifffy]

Hitcher for PM!

Didn't it used to be that you had to own land/property to be entitled to vote? In saying that, if that became the way the Presbyterian Church and Tainui would be a massive majority here in the Waikato...

Yes, just like in feudal era Europe.

[Latte]

But surely the business round table led "coalition" would let the rest of us eat cake?

Oh I'm sure they realise the benefit in keeping the workforce placated Although I'm more of a savory guy than sweet, pies and sausage rolls.

[Ocean1]

I'd like to see a taxation system where you get 1 vote for every $10,000 tax you pay.

Sounds a little bit too much like feudal Europe for my taste.

Problem with that? You do realise that serfdom paid zero tax? That the full weight of society’s wider costs were born by the aristocracy?

No thanks.

And you uppity fuckin’ surfs got bugger all say in that?

[Smifffy]

Problem with that? You do realise that serfdom paid zero tax? That the full weight of society’s wider costs were born by the aristocracy?



And you uppity fuckin’ surfs got bugger all say in that?

So look for me in the peasant revolt.

[Ocean1]

So look for me in the peasant revolt.

Well you're ugly enough.


You'll be gentle with that pitchfork, eh?

[Smifffy]

Well you're ugly enough.

Very true.

You'll be gentle with that pitchfork, eh?

I always preferred the flaming torch.

[mashman]

er, er, er nah fuck it

[steve_t]

er, er, er nah fuck it

Are you feeling OK?

[mashman]

Are you feeling OK?

just had a shower and can't be arsed pissing in the wind

[rainman]

What? you want money based on how hard I work?

In a word, yes - mainly because life and the economy are more complicated than the cartoon reality you are drawing on here. Sure hard work is good and bludging is bad - but you are excluding a heap of other factors that influence wealth, work, opportunity, and ability. As I suspect you know - because, I suspect, you are not that much of an idiot.

All of them.

Must be such a burden for you living in a undeveloped country like NZ. When do you leave for a more enlightened spot? Like, maybe (let me check the list... US, no... UK, no... Western Europe, no....) Kazakhstan?

I'd like to see a taxation system where you get 1 vote for every $10,000 tax you pay.

I see you're having a bad bout of ferkinidiotness. Get well soon!