PM confirms Nov 26 election date

[onearmedbandit]

Has the Labour party got a leader yet?

[Mully]

No mate ... it's 'cause I have no one to support in the elections ... I don't like any of the suckers ... Yes, I am politically aware ... and yes, I can think into the future ... I can conceive a better future than any of the silly fuckers we have in power right now ...

So, you'll be starting your own Party then?

Chop, chop. Only 10 months to go.

[Coldrider]

For the cynics among us what has the WRC got to do with the election anyway.

NZRFU is budgetting a $30M loss, to be picked up by taxpayers.

[Mully]

NZRFU is budgetting a $30M loss, to be picked up by taxpayers.

Ah, but if the ABs win, then the country will be jubilant (except Swoop, of course) and be more likely to vote the incumbent back in.

[Gremlin]

One of the real issues with democracy is the people voting for a party. Not all people are intelligent (not all are stupid either). But enough vote for what they want, not what the country needs. Then they complain when the bigger picture goes pear shaped.

3 years really isn't that long a time, and continually cycling as we don't like one or the other fucks up the bigger picture. Couple that with the parties trying to do things to get back into power (instead of making a healthy country), and you wonder why things are fucked.

Case in point is mining. Hardly popular, but then the country cries when we don't get tax cuts or something, as they can't be afforded. You can't have it both ways.

[Coldrider]

Ah, but if the ABs win, then the country will be jubilant (except Swoop, of course) and be more likely to vote the incumbent back in.

and what sporting fixture will they use to persuade us on the referedum, FPP, MMP, STV etc?

[phill-k]

Give me someone like clark at least she had an air of dignity and perhaps aloofness but for fucks sack did he learn nothing from his interviews with Paul Henry, he is gullible likes to be liked and can be taken in very very easily and you want him for PM no wonder we are still floundering around

Quote from a piece in the herald

In an interview on Tony Veitch's Radio Sport breakfast show on Friday, Mr Key was asked if he would like to be Australian cricketer Shane Warne, and replied: "Yeah, well given his current liaisons with Liz Hurley."

"I like Liz Hurley actually. I reckon she is hot," Mr Key said.

He later said actress Jessica Alba "looked pretty hot", and described Angelina Jolie as "not too bad" either.

and the article

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10703662

I know I know u all who support the fuckwit will say he is only stating the obvious, yes it is but as a PM you need to know when to open your mouth and when to keep your thoughts very much to yourself, actually this is a trait of an autocrat / dictator, a person who doesn't actually realise his position or who doesn't actually care.

[Gremlin]

I'd prefer a pm to be more down to earth. I've always said it should be run like a business. The more down to earth he is, hopefully, the more in touch he is?

Couple that with the fact we have less people than some cities, we should have a Lord Mayor and Council. None of this councils everywhere AND a parliament.

[Coldrider]

I'd prefer a pm to be more down to earth. I've always said it should be run like a business. The more down to earth he is, hopefully, the more in touch he is?

Couple that with the fact we have less people than some cities, we should have a Lord Mayor and Council. None of this councils everywhere AND a parliament.

Does that mean no matter where we lived, we would be in a suburb of Wellington?

Definitely agree with comments though.

[Gremlin]

Does that mean no matter where we lived, we would be in a suburb of Wellington?

'course not, top dog is still the Mayor, and we still have multiple cities (who wants to be in Wellington aye? )

Just have a chief for the city or something...

[rainman]

Case in point is mining. Hardly popular, but then the country cries when we don't get tax cuts or something, as they can't be afforded. You can't have it both ways.

Are you seriously arguing that the only way for us to afford tax cuts is mining?

a person who doesn't actually realise his position or who doesn't actually care.

He doesn't care about NZ, just himself. All he has to do is smile, wave and get the idiots who vote for him to tick the box for "that nice Mr Key", or "that down to earth Mr Key" or whatever and his job is done. He's not the "leader", just a figurehead. Also, he wanted PM on the CV and doesn't care enough to do anything useful after that. Worst. PM. Ever.

I'd prefer a pm to be more down to earth. I've always said it should be run like a business. The more down to earth he is, hopefully, the more in touch he is?

And there is all the evidence you need.

Irrespective of the past histories and failings of Labour and the Nats, hatred of Helen/Cullen/the Greens/whoever, how your parents vote, whether you're a farmer, whatever - anyone who votes Key/the Nats back in for a second term is voting to destroy this great country. I agree Labour is hard to vote for at the moment (actually Phil's the closest to a centrist/semi-right-wing leftie that can be had, hardly a socialist menace), and there are few compelling parties to vote for, but a second-term Nat government would completely fuck us for decades.

If ever there was a time to vote a government out of power, it would be now.

[Gremlin]

No rainman, I'm not saying that about tax cuts. I'm saying if the majority of the country doesn't want to do a revenue generating activity (whatever, mining is one option) then don't expect the books to have excess money to throw somewhere else (schools, tax cuts whatever). I'm saying you can't have it both ways, yet people throw a tantrum when they can't have both.

Labour and National are the two real viable options. Labour governed through massive prosperity for 9 years and left a massive mess. National looks unpopular for cleaning up what needed to be done (number of people in Govt employment was one such example), and now people aren't happy. The 3 year popularity cycle creates a mess of the economy.

[rainman]

Labour governed through massive prosperity for 9 years and left a massive mess.

I think that is a popular myth. They certainly didn't do all they could have done, and splurged a bit (ok, a lot) at the end to buy votes, but our government debt levels are still pretty low. There's always more value to extract from the tax dollar (on a diminishing basis, of course) and Labour could have been way more prudent in their spending - but the economy was not as poked when the Nats came in as they like to say (sometimes, when it suits them).

We do have a large private debt problem, of course, but that's because we like property and almost all our banks are Aussie banks. And we like the Ooh Shiny when we are really not an advanced enough economy to live as high on the hog as we do.

[Gremlin]

Labour also played with the unemployment figures. It looked like they had major success reducing unemployment, yet government department employment rose by about the same. This adds to government expenditure etc, and National looked unpopular when they released all the fat Labour had introduced.

I'm certainly more a fan of National than Labour, as I fundamentally believe that when businesses do well, people do well, and when businesses do poorly, people do poorly... we all derive an income from somewhere. In a very simplistic view, Labour is for the people, National is for business...

That said, it doesn't stop either from coming up with some of the most stupid or contradictory ideas ever...

[Brian d marge]

Please Vote for the;

Party

People

Combination of the above

That has the most compassion for the poor and the the average Joe

forget the rhetoric , resist party speak and what ever

As it isn't the party in power who is pulling the strings , So do the best u can

You are not Rich, you wont be rich , and 70 % of your fellow Kiwis ARE IN THE SAME BOAT ( think its 70 not sure )

If your Granny votes for Mr Key cause hes a nice man ,,, Byatch slap her and say DANG Woman,,, I done gone told you not to meddle in Poloticks

I would like to see

State utilities run like a good non profit org ( business like )
Good budgeting ( ala National with out the business round table )
A strong focus on Health /education / and healthy food ( remove the gst off fresh veges etc)

The total abolition of CD , DB and Lion brown

and Nick smith Hung drawn and Quartered with a blunt pocket knife

oh and Bacon sandwiches free to the over 40s

Stephen