Jerusalem UFO 28-01-11 TFH?

[martybabe]

A fourth vid has turned up.

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011...ilmed-in-utah/

Four vids filming the same thing a hoax?


Skyryder

Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, we are never going to be able to truly trust what we see on video however compelling.

I like the fourth one because it seems to refute all the 'Hoax explanations' of the earlier ones i.e. Twinkling city lights and moving traffic are visible.

I am firmly planted on the fence with these things but much as I dislike the sheep that will believe anything they see or hear however ridiculous, I despise the 'experts' that dismiss anything and everything with explanations that are sometimes more ridiculous than the original story.

I would genuinely like for all these things to be true just to give the fooking self appointed 'experts' the fingers and sometimes when I look at the night sky and see strange things I can't identify I can think maybe, just maybe. Sadly I have to join the throngs of nay-sayers for now.... until it happens to me, for ultimately, in this world, I am the only one I can trust on these matters.

[Skyryder]

Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, we are never going to be able to truly trust what we see on video however compelling.

I like the fourth one because it seems to refute all the 'Hoax explanations' of the earlier ones i.e. Twinkling city lights and moving traffic are visible.

I am firmly planted on the fence with these things but much as I dislike the sheep that will believe anything they see or hear however ridiculous, I despise the 'experts' that dismiss anything and everything with explanations that are sometimes more ridiculous than the original story.

I would genuinely like for all these things to be true just to give the fooking self appointed 'experts' the fingers and sometimes when I look at the night sky and see strange things I can't identify I can think maybe, just maybe. Sadly I have to join the throngs of nay-sayers for now.... until it happens to me, for ultimately, in this world, I am the only one I can trust on these matters.

Yep hear what ya saying. But this was the kind of thinking that denied the earth going around the sun and believed that the earth was flat. From where we are that is exactly what it looks like and conventional wisdom for thousands of years believed this. There are nutters on both side of the fence. Somehow we have to cut through all the bullshit from both sides and if possible come to some kind of conclusion. Are we alone or not? I find it difficult to believe that we are. Logic just does not allow it but logic is not proof. For that we need to see with our own eyes. As you rightly say I'm the only one that I trust on these matters.

Skyryder

[admenk]

sometimes when I look at the night sky and see strange things I can't identify I can think maybe, just maybe

that would be the Banks's Mild kicking in

[Taz]

Definitely real. Looks like the same craft that abducted me back in 98. Mmmm still addicted to anal probes to this day . Don't knock it til you try it

[martybabe]

Yep hear what ya saying. But this was the kind of thinking that denied the earth going around the sun and believed that the earth was flat. From where we are that is exactly what it looks like and conventional wisdom for thousands of years believed this. There are nutters on both side of the fence. Somehow we have to cut through all the bullshit from both sides and if possible come to some kind of conclusion. Are we alone or not? I find it difficult to believe that we are. Logic just does not allow it but logic is not proof. For that we need to see with our own eyes. As you rightly say I'm the only one that I trust on these matters.

Skyryder

Doesn't make much sense that we're alone I agree, it's a waste of a mighty big universe.
I would dearly like to believe that there are more intelligent beings out there, if we truly are the only custodians of the Earth and the skies we ain't doing terribly well thus far.
Mind you a culture obsessed with anal probes and cattle mutilation doesn't sound much more encouraging for the Universe eh.

that would be the Banks's Mild kicking in

Oh I wish Dude.

[Edbear]

Granted, but believing this particular evidence is like believing that Mickey Mouse is more than fiction.

Mickey isn't real..?????

[meteor]

still addicted to anal probes to this day . Don't knock it til you try it

OMG, you sick puppy. Get help.

[idleidolidyll]

it's not a UFO; it's the 2nd coming of Jeebus!

[Skyryder]

it's not a UFO; it's the 2nd coming of Jeebus!

Or the 'Hidden Iman.'

Skyryder

[KiWiP]

I'll continue to believe that this is a UFO: an 'unidentified' flying object. And I stress unidentified which may of not be an alien craft.

Well that's fair and to exaggerate the argument - if we step in something but don't know what it is why don't we don't immediately go "Oh my god I don't know what this is therefore it must be from outer space" Just because something is visually spectacular doesn't mean it comes from outer space.

One of my favourite points of discussion for the wonder of our world is the butterfly's wing
Some Amazonian species are visible from 8Kms away but they themselves cannot perceive/detect 'colour' How freaky is that? But it's not extraordinary it just is!

Unexplained wonder is not out of this world. It is in this world just not explained (yet)

[Edbear]

Well that's fair and to exaggerate the argument - if we step in something but don't know what it is why don't we don't immediately go "Oh my god I don't know what this is therefore it must be from outer space" Just because something is visually spectacular doesn't mean it comes from outer space.

One of my favourite points of discussion for the wonder of our world is the butterfly's wing
Some Amazonian species are visible from 8Kms away but they themselves cannot perceive/detect 'colour' How freaky is that? But it's not extraordinary it just is!

Unexplained wonder is not out of this world. It is in this world just not explained (yet)

Bit like me, really...

[Skyryder]

Well that's fair and to exaggerate the argument - if we step in something but don't know what it is why don't we don't immediately go "Oh my god I don't know what this is therefore it must be from outer space" Just because something is visually spectacular doesn't mean it comes from outer space.

One of my favourite points of discussion for the wonder of our world is the butterfly's wing
Some Amazonian species are visible from 8Kms away but they themselves cannot perceive/detect 'colour' How freaky is that? But it's not extraordinary it just is!

Unexplained wonder is not out of this world. It is in this world just not explained (yet)

After long discussion at a party one night where i advocated the possibility of life in the universe much along lines that I have posted on i was asked by a sceptic whether I believe or not. The smart arse thought he had me trapped. i simply stated that I was a fence sitter on the subject with my feet dangling over on the believers side. It's about the best that i can do. I saw somethig strange when I was a kid that left a strong impression on me. Hence the position of my feet.

Yes there is a lot of strange things in our world but that in no ways denies strange things in other worlds.

Skyryder

[jimbo600]

They're already here.

Supernintendo Paula Rose must be from another planet surely?

[KiWiP]

Yes there is a lot of strange things in our world but that in no ways denies strange things in other worlds.

Agreed. I also believe that it is extremely unlikely that there is not life somewhere out there. But do they visit us in 'UFOs'? I find the coincidence in time difficult to stomach. Here we are a few years after visiting the moon making space travel a reality to us. So now we create a greater being in the sky to explain that which we cannot. Hey didn't those religious types do that?

I do secretly hope however that Men in black is real

p.s. we need an alien emoticon

[imdying]

Mickey isn't real..?????

Nah, I'm pretty sure he is... I'm sure I have a photo of me with him somewhere.....


So glad that it's the concept rather than this particular 'evidence' that people are open to.