Time for a new class of racing?

**Wingnut** · 4th February 2011, 15:31

Originally Posted by froggyfrenchman

Ride what you brung.
The last one we had 30 odd bikes ranging from a ZX14 race bike down to a local highschool lad on an FXR150 with L plates

With a significant speed difference down any straight - safety would be an issue surely.

**froggyfrenchman** · 4th February 2011, 15:36

Originally Posted by Wingnut

With a significant speed difference down any straight - safety would be an issue surely.

Closed road hill climbs - street sprints.
They are run one machine at a time, racing against the clock.
By keeping the tracks at just over 1min for the fast guys, and limiting the day to 40 bikes, we still get 7 or 8 runs in each. At the top we have some very close racing, with the top three often seperated by under half a second. Some of the others there are on learner bikes, or BMW tourers, or Guzzis, or anything really. They can race their own time, or their mates', without having to worry about us running rings around them.

The format works. We always get a great turnout.

**satchriossi** · 4th February 2011, 16:24

this sounds wonderful and yet up until reading your posts here i was COMPLETELY oblivious to it. Is there a website that has more information on upcoming hillclimbs or anything?

**Deano** · 4th February 2011, 17:40

Originally Posted by satchriossi

this sounds wonderful and yet up until reading your posts here i was COMPLETELY oblivious to it. Is there a website that has more information on upcoming hillclimbs or anything?

For the past 5 years or so I have been posting in here about this....and I do believe it is the best closed road hillclimb event in the country.

www.cliffhanger.org.nz

check out the Jay Lawrence video of the record run

**satchriossi** · 4th February 2011, 23:49

I've done the cliffhanger myself!

I want to know about these ones froggyfrenchman is on about.

**froggyfrenchman** · 5th February 2011, 06:00

Originally Posted by satchriossi

I've done the cliffhanger myself!

I want to know about these ones froggyfrenchman is on about.

http://pacclub.co.nz/press/hill-clim...treet-sprints/

Just keep an eye on this site.
There will no doubt be another couple before the summer's over

**satchriossi** · 5th February 2011, 08:14

thankyou! The page is now favourited and i'll keep an eye on it.

**Shorty_925** · 5th February 2011, 08:27

Or head to www.sportsground.co.nz for some images from the last 1/4 mile sprint.

**sugilite:Me** · 5th February 2011, 20:38

Is there any merit in a clubmans "A" (run what you brung) and clubmans "B" (as clubmans it is now), but instead of being kicked into a formula class if your too fast, you get upgraded to Clubmans "A" (if you choose that instead of formula one or what ever). Run clubmans "A" with maybe bears or another faster type class and that would avoid the RG150/R1 speed differential safety issues? Maybe put a bike must be 7+ or so years old to be in Clubmans "A" class rule....could get a lot of extra riders into a affordable class of racing?

**cowboyz** · 5th February 2011, 20:46

thats a damn fine idea! i can see something like that working. maybe put them on the back on the F3 or F2 grid if bears arent running on the day?

**koba** · 5th February 2011, 22:41

Originally Posted by wharfy

Would it make sense to have a sliding age of the bike scale, say +15 years and +20 years for example ?

Naa, As sugilite says.

Originally Posted by sugilite

Is there any merit in a clubmans "A" (run what you brung) and clubmans "B" (as clubmans it is now), but instead of being kicked into a formula class if your too fast, you get upgraded to Clubmans "A" (if you choose that instead of formula one or what ever). Run clubmans "A" with maybe bears or another faster type class and that would avoid the RG150/R1 speed differential safety issues? Maybe put a bike must be 7+ or so years old to be in Clubmans "A" class rule....could get a lot of extra riders into a affordable class of racing?

Originally Posted by cowboyz

thats a damn fine idea! i can see something like that working. maybe put them on the back on the F3 or F2 grid if bears arent running on the day?

Bollocks.

If you get the boot from clubmans do you think a class should be specially created to suit you bike and situation? Thats crap.
Entry numbers are already diluted across a myriad of classes, the last thing we need is more.

If you are hard out enough to be too fast for clubbies get a bike that fits in with the current class structure, if you go pre '89 Junior you can have an alright bike for 3/5ths of fuck all.

**cowboyz** · 5th February 2011, 23:10

Originally Posted by koba

Naa, As sugilite says.

Bollocks.

If you get the boot from clubmans do you think a class should be specially created to suit you bike and situation? Thats crap.
Entry numbers are already diluted across a myriad of classes, the last thing we need is more.

If you are hard out enough to be too fast for clubbies get a bike that fits in with the current class structure, if you go pre '89 Junior you can have an alright bike for 3/5ths of fuck all.

if you dont want progression why not scrap the post classics and just have formula classes and tell everyone to buy a real racebike or bugger off?

**montsta56** · 6th February 2011, 00:05

I Agree with Koba.
Seems pointless creating a class for every bike that turns up. There's probably already to many classes.

**cowboyz** · 6th February 2011, 04:13

i dont think its about creating a class for every bike that shows up.. i think it about creatingthe oppourtunity for more people to get to the track. The days are pretty busy as they are so creating another class that will require another race is not really going to work.. but creating a class within a class, if it encourages more people to get into it then it cant be a bad thing.