Police say had the rider been wearing...

[Tony.OK]

I just see it as another crack against us terribly unsafe bikers, where was the mention of "if the driver had've turned to look instead of relying on just a mirror" or "had the truck indicated" ?

Some may see the comment as just a passing remark, but thats not what the money grubbing politicians will take from it.........................."yet another biker costing us funds" is what it'll get translated into.

All I know for sure is some poor bastard got killed needlessly and that sux.

[Smifffy]

No.

Because a crash involving a locomotive rarely results in the death of the engine driver.

BUT all cars are going to have a fluro paint job

So the train driver can see them in time to swerve around them...

Last train crash I saw was another angry impatient truck driver who thought that he could use his "might is right" mentality to cut off the train, since he didn't want to be held up while all the wagons rolled by.

Turns out the locomotive and laden wagons were mightier.

I think I posted about it at the time, with a statement along the lines of:

If a truck driver isn't going to wait for a train, with air horn, lights and crossing bells going, what hope is there that they will wait for a motorcycle?

[Ocean1]

Black? Really? That's pretty counter-intuitive. I'd like to see the source. Wasn't there also a study that showed motorcyclists with white helmets were in less accidents than those with black ones? Pulling this out of my ass btw I have no source.

Can't find it, was fairly recent. The reason given was, again contrast, if the environment is all colourful then an interupt in that, (particularly a moving one) is more noticable. The white helmet thing is correct: http://www.motorcyclesafetyinfo.com/...ity_study.html But here they find fluro vests more to advantage.

[geoffm]

Your post conveniently ignores the deaths and accidents that are single vehicle accidents.

and of course a hi - vis vest will make a lot of difference to them...

Having worn a hi vis vest daily in auckland traffic, I can assure you it makes no difference at all.
Geoff

[Grahameeboy]

If people can't see a big-arsed railway locomotive with a big-arsed headlight (or two) and on a fixed track how the hell are we motorcyclists ever going to be seen consistantly????

Didn't know you had new wheels

[rwh]

No, his casual comment was not out of line, possibly he wasn't motorcycle savvy, who knows?

And had the poor bugger been wearing a vest he MAY have just been seen is all I got out of the comment..nothing more

How about "If she hadn't been wearing such a short skirt, she may not have been attacked"

Would that one be out of line? Or would that be a quite normal Police comment?

Richard

[carver]

i do u turns in my truck real quick, and 2 of em are quite long...
mirrors on trucks can be shit too, the nissan PK is shocking really...

[scumdog]

How about "If she hadn't been wearing such a short skirt, she may not have been attacked"

Would that one be out of line? Or would that be a quite normal Police comment?

Richard

Piss off, it's not the same and you know it (I hope)!

I guess some would criticise the comment "If he had been wearing a seatbelt he may not have been killed" too??

[Grahameeboy]

Pardon, sorry, what?

No...how when what

[jrandom]

How about "If she hadn't been wearing such a short skirt, she may not have been attacked"

Would that one be out of line?

Whether in or out of line, it'd still be true in many cases.

Or would that be a quite normal Police comment?

Of course not. Quite a normal private Police thought, though, one suspects.

[Grahameeboy]

Piss off, it's not the same and you know it (I hope)!

I guess some would criticise the comment "If he had been wearing a seatbelt he may not have been killed" too??

Don't assume anything on KB SD

[Voltaire]

Very sad to hear this news. U turns should be banned as I see them nearly every day on my commmute and usually at really stupid places.
I slowed right down the other day as this idiot was doing a u turn just after a roundabout as he missed the turn....was he angry at me slowing down to press home the point.
BAN U TURNS.

[Smifffy]

No...how when what

Oh, gotcha.

Right you are then.

[Foxzee]

Right we have heard the view of MAG which is great..do we have a view from BRONZ or more to the point do we on here have a spokes person from our "New Action Group"....this debate is one that needs to be considered and taken seriously...we now have three action groups working for us...instead of moaning post the positive and stand by your comments...

[Mom]

Even that won't work. I saw the result of an fatality by the Kopu bridge a year or three back. A car pulled out of a gas station right into the path of a bus.

My thought at the time was, "If the fuckwits can't see a bus, we've got no show."

Hi vis vest? Yeah right!

Far canal, I was there at the time, what a shocker. I looked after the children that were in the car.