Police say had the rider been wearing...

**rwh** · 6th February 2011, 20:32

Originally Posted by scumdog

Piss off, it's not the same and you know it (I hope)!

They're both instances of your fate being influenced by what you choose to wear.

I can see some differences, yes. Obviously the sexual attack is a deliberate choice, rather than negligence, and was the result of being noticed rather than not being noticed.

Whether those differences affect the argument is something else. Perhaps you'd like to comment further?

I guess some would criticise the comment "If he had been wearing a seatbelt he may not have been killed" too??

The seatbelt is a legal requirement, in most cases.

Choice of fashion isn't.

Richard

**bogan** · 6th February 2011, 20:32

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Guys - you have to be careful reacting to media comments. It all gets cut up and chopped into controversial sound bites, who knows what ELSE the cop said because he doesnt get to decide what goes to air... Whats happening here is just mana from heaven for the news guys - 'Motorcyclists outraged at Police' great byline on a slow day when maybe the cop acually went on to say 'but the truck driver was 100% to blame' or anyone of a thousand things.. Dont get your tits in a tangle about it because as soon as you do - you loose the fight.

But the public don't know what he was going to say either, and they are the ones who need to know even if a biker isn't wearing high vis, you still have to look for them.

**scumdog** · 6th February 2011, 20:40

Originally Posted by rwh

The seatbelt is a legal requirement, in most cases.

Choice of fashion isn't.

Richard

Pfft, since when has 'legal requirement' been of importance on KB??

**rwh** · 6th February 2011, 20:46

Originally Posted by scumdog

Pfft, since when has 'legal requirement' been of importance on KB??

How does KB affect what is a useful angle of argument? Other than the ability to ignore it by changing the subject, I guess.

Richard

**Maha** · 6th February 2011, 20:47

Originally Posted by bogan

But the public don't know what he was going to say either, and they are the ones who need to know even if a biker isn't wearing high vis, you still have to look for them.

That is it in a nutshell bogan. Anyone who saw the item will probably say '' there ya go, if he had wearing a hi-viz he could still be alive''....that must be true, a cop said it.

**davebullet** · 6th February 2011, 20:48

The truck driver WASN'T LOOKING. What the fuck is a vest going to do if someone WASN'T LOOKING.

**Stormer** · 6th February 2011, 20:49

As has been stated before:
Soon we will all be made to wear your " hi viz" bloody jackets, have flashing lights on top of our helmets, and that annoying "beep, beep, beep..." beeper like on forklifts whenever in motion.
Just bend over and take it!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and don`t ever, like, speed...
Take it to the race track...
Watch every cars front wheel direction...
Use the search function...

Someone, somewhere, long ago said this place was like Coronation Street.
Ain`t that the truth.

**NONONO** · 6th February 2011, 20:49

Making a U-turn

You are normally allowed to make U-turns, as long as the road is clear in both directions and it is safe to do so. Make sure you have enough room to complete the turn and don't create a hazard for oncoming vehicles.

You aren't allowed to make U-turns if a 'No U-turn' sign is displayed.
Making a turn over a no-passing line

You can cross over the solid yellow no-passing line (if it is safe to do so) when making a turn to enter a driveway or side road.

However, bear in mind that no-passing lines are often marked where visibility is limited, so special care is required. It may be safer to turn further along the road, where visibility is better. See Passing for more information about no-passing lines.

Sorry I see nothing in the road code bout Hi Viz Vests.
RIP that rider, taken out by another shit, and that shit defended by Katman...what a fking farce and a tragedy.

**scumdog** · 6th February 2011, 20:50

Originally Posted by Maha

That is it in a nutshell bogan. Anyone who saw the item will probably say '' there ya go, if he had wearing a hi-viz he could still be alive''....that must be true, a cop said it.

And my real name is Dangle John and I'm a cop.
So it must be true.....

**Maha** · 6th February 2011, 20:52

Originally Posted by scumdog

And my real name is Dangle John and I'm a cop.
So it must be true.....

Your argument finished back a page post at #103.....

**davebullet** · 6th February 2011, 20:52

Originally Posted by scumdog

And my real name is Dangle John and I'm a cop.
So it must be true.....

The problem is a good chunk of society are sheep who follow and believe everything they hear. News people do research and are authorative, right? They wouldn't tell us lies, why would they?

**scumdog** · 6th February 2011, 20:54

Originally Posted by davebullet

The truck driver WASN'T LOOKING. What the fuck is a vest going to do if someone WASN'T LOOKING.

Gee, the truck driver has almost been forgotten about in this 'lets bash the cop for saying a really naughty thing' thread,

**Katman** · 6th February 2011, 20:55

Originally Posted by NONONO

and that shit defended by Katman

I haven't defended anyone.

**Smifffy** · 6th February 2011, 20:56

Originally Posted by scumdog

And my real name is Dangle John and I'm a cop.
So it must be true.....

I'm sure that if you said that to a member of the NZ media who didn't know you, it would be reported as "Officer Dangle John of the NZ Riviera Police had said that he greatly enjoys winding up drongos....."