Police say had the rider been wearing...

**Crasherfromwayback** · 7th February 2011, 19:00

Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery

You wanna call me names huh? I remember you you jumped-up prat. You're the snot-gobbler who thinks you're some sort of hero aren't you? "crasherfromwayback" What a fucken wanker. You're full of shit. If some ditzy stupid bitch indicates to the left and pulls over out the blue then you should of put your stupid brain into gear dickhead. So there was vehicles up your arse and there were vehicles on-coming in the other lane at the same time and you were pinned in with nowhere to go huh? BULLSHIT. Since when does even a ditzy brainless cager swerve out into two lanes of fast moving traffic? You're sitting there at your computer telling lies aresehole. If the bitch didn't see your bike (my my what a surprise) Bet you were in her blind spot and bet you there was no car up your arse and bet you there was no cars within cooee in the other lane. Again, you're full of shit. Learn your lesson did ya dimwit?

Smoke a bit of meth do ya? FYI, she obviously wasn't looking what was behind her, else she wouldn't have done the u turn Einstein. It could've been a fucking Mack truck and she would've done the same move. Just like some people drive in front of a train. And just when did I say there was no one coming the other way? There wasn't, and it's just as well. But regardless...that accident was unavoidable, unless you take her out of the equation. Tell us all how you managed to hit not one...but two animals seeing as you're so fucking God like eh? I'd love you to teach me how to ride a motorcycle. Because I obviously have no idea!

**pete376403** · 7th February 2011, 19:03

Originally Posted by Maha

Anne may wear one at night (which is where they come into thier own) if she is a pillion. I dont need one at the front.

Hi Vis (ie the flourescent yellow / orange / green ) ON ITS OWN, isn't going to do much for you at night. Reflective strips, which not all hi-vis vests or jackets have, will help a lot.

**Mom** · 7th February 2011, 19:08

Originally Posted by Viscount Montgomery

And why the fuck is it that I've been riding the roads thousands of K's per year for 40 fucken years incident free (touch wood) (apart from hitting a cow and a horse) and yet there's all these shitloads and shitloads of bikers coming to grief in traffic on a consistent basis? Like I say, it's all a fucken mystery to me.

It should not be a mystery to you though. I can meet your effort, I have never hit anything on the road (apart fromt he odd suicidal bird). I have been riding for almost 40 years. I had my first off on the road last Labour weekend, completely my own stupid fault and fully avoidable had I really considered my options in advance. I managed to highside off my bike when my front wheel made contact with some fine metal, while I was leaned over, on an off camber, right hand turn, at about 20kph. Instant down, no harm to me, the poor BB looked a bit 2nd hand and I scared the shit out of a couple in a campervan that I went down directly and unexpectedly in front of

Please lets not forget the reason this thread was started...

TV3 screened a report about a biker fatality where a "truck" alledgedly did a U-turn into the rider. Plod were on camera (and I personally dont care if it was an off the cuff comment) saying that perhaps had the biker worn a hi-viz vest the "truck" driver may have seen him. So, he would not have ben killed by the negligence of another road user had he worn a hi-viz vest? Completely out of order, I hope the copper concerned is chastigated for making a comment like that to TV3.

I am intrigued that the item no longer features on their website, I wonder if the complaints received may have caused that to happen?

**Mom** · 7th February 2011, 19:11

Originally Posted by pete376403

Hi Vis (ie the flourescent yellow / orange / green ) ON ITS OWN, isn't going to do much for you at night. Reflective strips, which not all hi-vis vests or jackets have, will help a lot.

Reflective stripes are fantastic at night, they light up like a Christmas Tree and then some. At least enough for the average blind car driver to wonder WTF they are following anyway.

Every man and his friggen dog wear fluro shit, it is so common as to be ignored as a road cone or a road worker (stationary objects).

**Drew** · 7th February 2011, 19:12

This shit just got good again.

You are really being a fuckwit viscount.

Crasherfromwayback is not kerry Dukie!

**Ocean1** · 7th February 2011, 19:16

Originally Posted by Mom

or a road worker (stationary objects).

They don't do much up your way either eh?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 7th February 2011, 19:24

Originally Posted by Drew

You are really being a fuckwit viscount.

No he isn't Drew. He's simply telling me I think I'm a fucking hero in one sentence, then telling us all what a fucking hero he is in the previous rant! In between drags on his crack pipe of course. He is (obviously) one of those lucky motorcycling Gods that has never made a mistake...is better than perfect, and will never be taken out by an unforseen act of stupidity of another road user. Wish I was him.

**Elysium** · 7th February 2011, 19:28

"In a perfect world...."

-ANZ

**Katman** · 7th February 2011, 19:29

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Wish I was him.

Try harder then.

**Mom** · 7th February 2011, 19:38

Originally Posted by jafar

they pulled it from the website last night mate.

I'd like to think they did it because they realised that they had gone over the top with their piss poor slanted sensationalism. Using the unfortunate death of someone to push a political viewpoint

But a more likely answer is they broke the rubber band in their propaganda machine.

Originally Posted by Smifffy

I'd call that a good start, I wouldn't call it addressed.

Originally Posted by Maha

True/correct, but then, I am only the events guy within MAG.
And thats all I know at this stage.
I am sure the inbox will have waiting replies, MAG pres is not home from work yet.
I have seen the MAG VP looking at this today.

I copy a reply I have sent out regarding the press release issued last night...

I really wish I had saved the link to the TV3 news story last night, though it appears it would not matter if I had, it is not available on their website. It was a news item where the police officer interviewed said that perhaps had the biker worn a H-Viz Vest the truck driver would have seen him.

A motorcycle rider is dead, allegedly because another vehicle did an unexpecetd u-turn into his path, and it is reported that Hi-Viz may have made the difference to him being seen, therefore still alive. Thin end of the wedge as far as we are concerned. Stupid comment to make without a full investigation, stupid comment to make without the proof. If that driver had actually LOOKED he would have seen the bike - there has been no mention of speed involved.

Is this the next draconian measure to assist the legal and legitimate biker rider in this country off the road? Talk about being marginalised. We ride a legitimate form of transport that is more eco friendly than a lot of cars out there. We lessen congestion, we pay our bills. Some of us have never claimed for ACC for a bike related injury yet we are all penalised for in a large part the poor driving skills of some of the people we share the road with.

**pete376403** · 7th February 2011, 19:42

Originally Posted by Mom

Reflective stripes are fantastic at night, they light up like a Christmas Tree and then some. At least enough for the average blind car driver to wonder WTF they are following anyway.

Pics taken in the same minute - only difference was the illumination.
Compulsory hi-viz = waste of time. Compulsory reflective = could be worth it, at night anyway.

**Mom** · 7th February 2011, 19:51

I would hate the thought of anything more being made compulsory for us to do to attempt to avoid being taken out by other road users or own stupidity. I would hope that education will be the key...

**steve_t** · 7th February 2011, 19:51

Originally Posted by pete376403

Pics taken in the same minute - only difference was the illumination.
Compulsory hi-viz = waste of time. Compulsory reflective = could be worth it, at night anyway.

Holy shit. Those tiny little strips of 3M reflective piping are amazing!