2011 NZ Champs

[crazy man]

Moto GP teams pay for their ohlins.

link please

[White trash]

To be honest the politics of what's going on behind the scenes and with different suspension tuners make the racing far more interesting to me, so let the debate continue I reckon.

Massive congratulations to Sloan for his very first national points race win, he wroked hard over the winter in crap conditions for a result in trying conditions and it's paid off.

Feel really bad for Staufer tossing it away with such a healthy lead, possibly done his championship a bit of damage there. Poor bugger, I hope the bike's not too bad and Brian's team can have him back challenging this weekend.

And of course Craig deciding that discretion was the better part of valur. Smart decision but it'll hurt his campaign.

[sidecar bob]

To be honest the politics of what's going on behind the scenes and with different suspension tuners make the racing far more interesting to me, so let the debate continue I reckon.

A debate is fine, its when it turns into a massdebate that it becomes a little trying.

[Nonbeliever]

A debate is fine, its when it turns into a massdebate that it becomes a little trying.

don't worry about it sideshow bob, it's a perfectly natural thing to do.

[Nonbeliever]

Perhaps the person that checked them after the Wanganui crash missed the fact that they were actually bent slightly, and that person was NOT K!

sounds like you know more than you're letting on Shaun

[sugilite:Me]

link please

It's not important enough for me to take the time to search for it, i think it may have been on soup, just remember reading the motogp teams pay a contract to ohlins for the suspension and support technicians

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's not important enough for me to take the time to search for it, i think it may have been on soup, just remember reading the motogp teams pay a contract to ohlins for the suspension and support technicians

I've no doubt they do. Apart from their partners Honda/Repsol etc...I'm sure they pay for everything except the Bridgestones. Honda may not have paid Showa of course...

[Shaun]

sounds like you know more than you're letting on Shaun

No mate, I just know that Kerry is NOT the mechanic of the bike, so he would have not been the person who checked the bike out after the Wanganui crash, whick did badly damage a frame

[crazy man]

It's not important enough for me to take the time to search for it, i think it may have been on soup, just remember reading the motogp teams pay a contract to ohlins for the suspension and support technicians

having ohlins in the moto gp teams sells alot of shocks a very dam lot of shocks. if ohlins said to rossi ... any monkey could win with are shocks what do you think could of happen at the time?dont think ohlins would be that silly to say that lol

[Robert Taylor]

if the japs built there own suspension for the moto gp they would be every bit as good as ohlins! l would say they get payed so much money by ohlins and everything for free who would not take up the offer!

Your surmisal is as far from reality as it could be.. ALL of the MotoGP, WSBK teams etc PAY for the Ohlins suspension they are running, the very top teams have assigned Ohlins technicians and the contract fee for their services is not insubstanial. Ohlins run it as a business and so they should, as did WP when they had a presence in WSBK. As did Showa. You do not see bold Ohlins badging etc on fairings as they do not sponsor anyone, they are a major component supplier as are companies such as Brembo etc etc. Teams pay for the product and the price is the price, they can choose to go anywhere else that they please, certainly to any company offering such a service and the reality is they are somewhat thin on the ground in this broken world!
HRC were hounding Ohlins for a good number of years to be able to run their product but when Yamaha Motor Co were the majority owners of Ohlins they always vetoed it. KYB had a presence a few years back with Kevin Schwantz etc but currently they have completely pulled out of international road racing.
I may be qualified to comment on this as I normally travel up to the factory in Sweden once yearly and often talk to the race department.

[Robert Taylor]

can you elaborate please Robert for the people not there??

thankyou

Major front end issues that also continued at Teretonga.

[sugilite:Me]

having ohlins in the moto gp teams sells alot of shocks a very dam lot of shocks. if ohlins said to rossi ... any monkey could win with are shocks what do you think could of happen at the time?dont think ohlins would be that silly to say that lol

Here is that link you were after....

[Robert Taylor]

having ohlins in the moto gp teams sells alot of shocks a very dam lot of shocks. if ohlins said to rossi ... any monkey could win with are shocks what do you think could of happen at the time?dont think ohlins would be that silly to say that lol

Sometimes its actually an impediment to sales as many people mistakenly think that Ohlins is only about racing shocks. When in fact they build a good number of shock listings that deliver much improved ride quality on ordinary everyday roads.

As an aside and in deference to Suzuki 21s ( Steve Sangsters ) charges I have an excellent working and business relationship with pretty much all of the main suspension tuners in this country, which scales much much more than road racing. As with any businessmen if trust is belied or standard trading terms are not respected then the connection is severed. Thats fair and reasonable for any business.

[Shaun]

Major front end issues that also continued at Teretonga.

Perhaps the suspension tuner adjusted his Re Bound in the complete opposite direction to what was asked for eh? I have seen this happen before

[suzuki21]

Perhaps the suspension tuner adjusted his Re Bound in the complete opposite direction to what was asked for eh? I have seen this happen before

Or in an "empty" pit adjusted front preload while thinking no one was in the truck watching, or in an "empty" pit being caught cranking up a steering dampener because supposedly the rider (who likes it loose) cant ride with only 3 clicks off minimum. Better watch oput for empty pit's, you never know who might be hiding/watching.