Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council (Ex Motorcycle Safety Levy Establishment Group)

[riffer]

What he gets upset when someone tells Katman the truth does he?
And Riffer, the day I start worrying about threats of violence from you and your mates is the day I'll stop riding pal....

Some people have no sense of humour.

For those of you who don't know Brent, he's short and ginger-haired. Not a threat of violence, merely a joke.

FFS NONONO get a life.

[StoneY]

One last thing I wish to add and hopefully not breach the rules again (my other post I made when wasted with fatigue broke some comms rules)

Gareth has so far proven to be very wise as a chair
He has also been rather fair and has protected some of the people on it from thunderbolts from above - namely me!

I find him honest and a no shit kind of guy.
Far better option than MN anyway...............

God I hope THIS post dont get me sacked...because there is no guarantee anyone from BRONZ will ever get on this council - we are all individual appointees

[Bassmatt]

One last thing I wish to add and hopefully not breach the rules again (my other post I made when wasted with fatigue broke some comms rules)

Gareth has so far proven to be very wise as a chair
He has also been rather fair and has protected some of the people on it from thunderbolts from above - namely me!

I find him honest and a no shit kind of guy.
Far better option than MN anyway...............

God I hope THIS post dont get me sacked...because there is no guarantee anyone from BRONZ will ever get on this council - we are all individual appointees

I couldnt see too much wrong with anything in any of your posts about this. Are the big boys trying to keep secrets already?
So much for transparency huh?

[StoneY]

I couldnt see too much wrong with anything in any of your posts about this. Are the big boys trying to keep secrets already?
So much for transparency huh?

Well it was my sole idea to post what I did mate and in a haze of fatigue from a hard week, I ignored set protocols in regards to 'public press releases' and the post I made could have been seen as that due to the public nature of this forum.

I meant well, and none of what I posted is not available at request from ACC anyway but I stepped on a few toes by jumping the gun and thats what I did wrong

[NONONO]

Some people have no sense of humour.

For those of you who don't know Brent, he's short and ginger-haired. Not a threat of violence, merely a joke.

FFS NONONO get a life.

Have a life Riffer.
Have had a life for the 35 years I've been riding a motorcycle.
1% and MCC, clubs and organisations.
Everything in between.
Still, eh?
You know best.

[Smifffy]

Well it was my sole idea to post what I did mate and in a haze of fatigue from a hard week, I ignored set protocols in regards to 'public press releases' and the post I made could have been seen as that due to the public nature of this forum.

I meant well, and none of what I posted is not available at request from ACC anyway but I stepped on a few toes by jumping the gun and thats what I did wrong

So it is wrong to keep the people that you are meant to represent informed of what happens in these meetings?

I was going to ask if the minutes were going to be made available somewhere.

I can only hope that this is not going to be another one of those backroom deal-making affairs.

[Mom]

I couldnt see too much wrong with anything in any of your posts about this. Are the big boys trying to keep secrets already?
So much for transparency huh?

Apparently. Denial of an agreement to keep discussions "in Committee" have been denied over and over again, despite some really close sources being told something entirely different. I think StoneYs post shows us that there is infact a communication protocol that has to be maintained, the fact that StoneY admits to have being censured for a post on KB saying that Nick Smith wanted Mike Noon to head up the MSLC etc only confirms things that have been denied vehemently. Nothing is to be discussed with the interested payees of the levy. Us little plebs will slimply swallow all that is spouted, blindly like the ignorant BIKERS we are. Are you a member of MAG? You should be!

So it is wrong to keep the people that you are meant to represent informed of what happens in these meetings?

I was going to ask if the minutes were going to be made available somewhere.

I can only hope that this is not going to be another one of those backroom deal-making affairs.

Hope away little one. Sorry for insinuating your ignorance (I dont really mean it).

We should just blindy continue to lie down and accept the outrageous levy increases for there are a group of "MOTORCYCLISTS" looking after out interests

[Smifffy]

Apparently. Denial of an agreement to keep discussions "in Committee" have been denied over and over again, despite some really close sources being told something entirely different. I think StoneYs post shows us that there is infact a communication protocol that has to be maintained, the fact that StoneY admits to have being censured for a post on KB saying that Nick Smith wanted Mike Noon to head up the MSLC etc only confirms things that have been denied vehemently. Nothing is to be discussed with the interested payees of the levy. Us little plebs will slimply swallow all that is spouted, blindly like the ignorant BIKERS we are. Are you a member of MAG? You should be!



Hope away little one. Sorry for insinuating your ignorance (I dont really mean it).

We should just blindy continue to lie down and accept the outrageous levy increases for there are a group of "MOTORCYCLISTS" looking after out interests

It is after all why I used the word 'hope'. Hope is what you have when there is nothing else. I would have liked to said that I trusted or expected transparency, however that wouldn't be true.

All I have is hope, not even faith.

[Mom]

It is after all why I used the word 'hope'. Hope is what you have when there is nothing else. I would have liked to said that I trusted or expected transparency, however that wouldn't be true.

All I have is hope, not even faith.

Sad times when honesty is not the first policy. Some really close sources have been told something entirely different to what some on here have posted. That has been denied, strongly denied.

I think we can accept it as Gospel now. The members of the MSLC are bound by a confidentiality agreement not to discuss anything that is said in their meetings. Oh that it took so long.

[Smifffy]

Sad times when honesty is not the first policy. Some really close sources have been told something entirely different to what some on here have posted. That has been denied, strongly denied.

I think we can accept it as Gospel now. The members of the MSLC are bound by a confidentiality agreement not to discuss anything that is said in their meetings. Oh that it too so long.

I still have hope tho!!

[rustic101]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR-Y8JZiQEM

What an interesting video; containing some very strong words, with a very clear message - No!. Politics aye.

I am opposed too is the MSL. To date what I have stated on here is yet to be disproven, right down to them being paid. I've been busy over the past six days, not sure what the weeks ahead hold - It is my intention to lodge an OIA to the Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council, if a reply is furnished I'll post on KB.

[Smifffy]

Well the Govt has brought this into line, right down to the name - it is now known as the Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council.

That is in line with the other 'Advisory Councils'. I guess we can expect that they will do the same thing for motorcycle safety as the 'Alcoholic liquor advisory council' has done for alcohol abuse in the country in recent years.

Oh wait....

[Mom]

That is in line with the other 'Advisory Councils'. I guess we can expect that they will do the same thing for motorcycle safety as the 'Alcoholic liquor advisory council' has done for alcohol abuse in the country in recent years.

Oh wait....

I drink, wine, lots of it. How come I dont get a levy on my wine purchases to fund ALAC?

Should not give them ideas eh?

[Smifffy]

I drink, wine, lots of it. How come I dont get a levy on my wine purchases to fund ALAC?

Should not give them ideas eh?

Who really knows what taxes and levies there are on it?

[superman]

Keep talking to old fullas when they see me on my bike and they almost always seem to say, oh I just got a bike again after xx years. 1300 xxx xxxxxx

1300?!?! AFTER MORE THAN A DECADE?!

Guess they are more experienced than I so I shouldn't question it, straight to the top