Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council (Ex Motorcycle Safety Levy Establishment Group)

[Katman]

Yep, can't wait to see those free Hi Vis vests and the car focused TV ads eh?
Oh, Oh...and the bumper stickers, an an.......
Pffffffffffffff

Let's get this straight (I think I'm right here).........

This committee have not been appointed to advise whether Hi Vis vests should be made compulsory.

If Hi Vis vest are made compulsory it will not be the fault of this committee.

The committee may be asked if spending some of the money on handing out free vests is how they would like to see it spent.

(And for the record, I am vehemently opposed to making Hi Vis compulsory).

[riffer]

Displaying ignorance here.

Go and read what the MCSAC is for.

IT'S NOT FOR FUCKING HI-VIS VESTS.

[Katman]

(If, in fact, I'm wrong and the powers of this committee do extend to advising government on policy then no-one will be demanding credentials louder than me).

[NONONO]

Well..Katman and Riffer....
WHAT THE FCK IS IT FOR THEN?
As you both seem to have inside knowledge, tell us. Cos no one else is,.

[Bassmatt]

So the A in MSAC doesnt stand for advisory?
Motorcycle Safety Arse Council?
Motorcycle Spending And Cleaning?

[Katman]

Well..Katman and Riffer....
WHAT THE FCK IS IT FOR THEN?
As you both seem to have inside knowledge, tell us. Cos no one else is,.

I'm sure they'll let you know what the money will be spent on in due course.

[NONONO]

I'm sure they'll let you know what the money will be spent on in due course.

Pffffffffff.
You seem to know what it's NOT to be spent on, sure you won't tell us what it IS to be spent on?

[Katman]

Pffffffffff.
You seem to know what it's NOT to be spent on, sure you won't tell us what it IS to be spent on?

Hey, I'm not on the committee - I'm as much in the dark as you.

But I'm not the one pissing their panties over it.

[riffer]

New motorcycle safety initiative announced

Friday, 21 January 2011, 12:15 pm
Press Release: New Zealand Government Hon Dr Nick Smith
Minister for ACC
21 January 2011
Media Release
New motorcycle safety initiative announced
$2 million a year from ACC levies is to be invested in improved motorcycle safety initiatives from a newly formed Advisory Council led by Dr Gareth Morgan, ACC Minister Nick Smith announced today.
“This new initiative is about the Government working with motorcyclists to improve safety, save lives and reduce the costs of accidents,” Dr Smith said.

The Motorcycle Safety Levy Advisory Council members appointed are:
• Gareth Morgan, Chairperson
• Paul Searancke, Deputy Chairperson (Commissioner: Recreation/Leisure of Motorcycling New Zealand)
• Peter McIntosh (President Ulysses Club of NZ Inc)
• Yvonne Forrest (Representative of Women’s International Motorcycle Association)
• Bill Grice (former Chairman of the Motor Industry Association Motorcycle Division)
• Brent Hutchison (President of Wellington branch of Bikers Rights Organisation of NZ)
• Jess Corbett (Representative of Scoot NZ and the NZ Classic Scooter Club)
The Council, which has its inaugural meeting today with Dr Smith, is to be supported by Police, Ministry of Transport and ACC staff and funded from the $30 per year Motorcycle Safety Levy. All levy funds are dedicated to programmes and projects with administrative costs being met by ACC.
It follows the announcement by Transport Minister Steven Joyce in September last year that the Government is moving to tackle the growing issue of motorcycle and moped safety, including strengthening license tests.
“We need Government agencies and motorcycle organisations working together to reverse the ugly and deadly trend over the past decade in motorcycle accidents,” Dr Smith said.
Recent statistics include:
• 50 New Zealanders died in motorcycle accidents in 2010, up from 30 in 2000
• 66% increase in motorcycle road toll compares to 24% decrease in overall road toll since 2000
• Motorcyclists make up 3% of registered vehicles but 13% of fatalities
• ACC motorcycle claims have risen from 1072 in 2000 to 4110 in 2010
Year: 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
Total Road Toll 462 455 405 461 435 405 393 421 366 385 374
Motorcycle Fatalities 30 34 30 28 35 38 39 41 51 48 50
“Motorcycling is an efficient means of transportation and a popular recreational pursuit but a fatality a week is unacceptable. Motorcyclists are going to need to be more safety conscious, but other road users and road designers are also going to have to change to reduce the motorcycle road toll,” Dr Smith said.
“This initiative is based on international best practise, particularly Victoria, Australia where motorcycle fatalities and serious injuries have reduced by 20% since 2002 when the state government there introduced a specific motorcycle safety levy programme and Council. If we could achieve likewise, it would save 10 motorcycle fatalities per year.
“I visited the Victoria programme last year with New Zealand motorcycle organisations and learned how investments in motorcycle training, road design improvements, signage and general road user education have made a real difference to safety.
“I want to acknowledge and thank the motorcycle clubs for their constructive engagement in getting the Council established. Dr Gareth Morgan brings strong economic and management expertise as well as a passion for recreational motorcycling and I thank him for taking on the role as Chair. The goal has to be to maximise the safety gains from this $2 million a year investment.”

[riffer]

I would suggest the bits to read out of that are:

motorcycle training, road design improvements, signage and general road user education

[Bassmatt]

"including strengthening license tests. "
Sounds like making policy to me.

[NONONO]

Yep, seen that, says nothing.
But..anyone else think that the way it's written makes the appointees look like REPRESENTATIVES of their individual organisations?
But Riffer says not.
Will be finding out from the horses arse, I mean, horses mouth in my correspondence with the Minister for ACC.

[Bassmatt]

"“We need Government agencies and motorcycle organisations working together to reverse the ugly and deadly trend over the past decade in motorcycle accidents,” Dr Smith said."
Thought they were there as individuals, not representing organisations.
One bloody contradiction after another.

[oneofsix]

"including strengthening license tests. "
Sounds like making policy to me.

yes the Transport Minister does get to make policy;

"It follows the announcement by Transport Minister Steven Joyce in September last year that the Government is moving to tackle the growing issue of motorcycle and moped safety, including strengthening license tests."

[Bassmatt]

yes the Transport Minister does get to make policy;

Friday, 21 January 2011, 12:15 pm
Press Release: New Zealand Government Hon Dr Nick Smith
Minister for ACC
21 January 2011
Media Release
New motorcycle safety initiative announced
$2 million a year from ACC levies is to be invested in improved motorcycle safety initiatives from a newly formed Advisory Council led by Dr Gareth Morgan, ACC Minister Nick Smith announced today.
“This new initiative is about the Government working with motorcyclists to improve safety, save lives and reduce the costs of accidents,” Dr Smith said.

Presumably with advice from the advisory council.