Can a stock NC30 be competitive?

**crazy man** · 3rd March 2011, 07:02

Originally Posted by scracha

Hmm... 1/4 of field doing under 1.20's on 400's indicates either the bikes were faster or the track was quicker. I'm not knocking manual timing but the best laptimes and difference in finishing times look frankly bizarre,

that was with tim gibbs laptimers!

**crazy man** · 3rd March 2011, 07:11

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoser...00130_full.jpg

**roogazza** · 3rd March 2011, 07:36

Originally Posted by Deano

There is no comparison of lap times to be had between a 25 year old, stock 400, and a F3 hot rod 450 that holds the lap record. Its delusional.

I can't imagine anyone quoting lap times at all, unless they are the record holder or very close, just makes them look sad.
Agreed, not fair to compare with past anyway, who does that.

**crazy man** · 3rd March 2011, 07:42

Originally Posted by roogazza

I can't imagine anyone quoting lap times at all, unless they are the record holder or very close, just makes them look sad.
Agreed, not fair to compare with past anyway, who does that.

gee thanks only showing they went quicker than 19's 10 years ago!

**Deano** · 3rd March 2011, 08:53

Originally Posted by roogazza

I can't imagine anyone quoting lap times at all, unless they are the record holder or very close, just makes them look sad.
Agreed, not fair to compare with past anyway, who does that.

Sad ? The OP was asking for advice about the competitiveness or not of an NC30.

I provided my lap time on a stock 89 CBR400RR for comparison (in addition to other lap times from competitive bikes), in order to show that there is no class that a stock (15-20 year old) NC30 will be competitive in.

Sad is silly old buggers trying to bag this generation of racers for their results, and bragging about how fast they were back in the day

As you were.

Originally Posted by crazy man

terry fitzgerald was the other fastie

Who now races an SV650. Would he be competitive now on a stock 400 ? No he wouldn't.

**roogazza** · 3rd March 2011, 10:23

Originally Posted by Deano

If its any help, I still think I am a 'good' rider.

Originally Posted by Deano

Sad is silly old buggers trying to bag this generation of racers for their results, and bragging about how fast they were back in the day

Show the Bragging !!!! you know I don't work like that. I think you have matching chips on each shoulder man.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 3rd March 2011, 10:37

Originally Posted by Deano

Sad is silly old buggers trying to bag this generation of racers for their results, and bragging about how fast they were back in the day

But its the universal rule: the older I get, the better I was.

(at life: I'm not a racer)

**Deano** · 3rd March 2011, 10:41

Originally Posted by roogazza

Show the Bragging !!!! you know I don't work like that. I think you have matching chips on each shoulder man.

You often refer to the fast guys from the good ole days, and have hinted you were one of them before. I have no problem with that. Good on ya.

But running down current efforts......????? And your bugbear with success at the hillclimb ?

I don't have a chip on my shoulder but you basically called me sad for quoting lap times when I was simply drawing comparisons for the OP's benefit.

Excuse me for reacting......I do bite well eh.

**Drew** · 3rd March 2011, 15:40

Originally Posted by roogazza

Show the Bragging !!!! you know I don't work like that. I think you have matching chips on each shoulder man.

Originally Posted by Deano

You often refer to the fast guys from the good ole days, and have hinted you were one of them before. I have no problem with that. Good on ya.

But running down current efforts......????? And your bugbear with success at the hillclimb ?

I don't have a chip on my shoulder but you basically called me sad for quoting lap times when I was simply drawing comparisons for the OP's benefit.

Excuse me for reacting......I do bite well eh.

You two suck at this.

Start calling each other cunts and saying ya wanna smash each others heads in fuck yas!

**crazy man** · 3rd March 2011, 16:01

l lied about the lap times for the time 10 years ago it was more like 1.24's around manfeild and tiers were better..they did the same times as what a 150 has done today! so they were sad riders!

**koba** · 3rd March 2011, 21:48

To cover the original posters question, No.
But just have a crack anyway, as I'm frequetly saying I've lost count of the amount of racers I've heard say "Shit, I should have tried this ages ago!"

To add a bit more to the debate:

Manfield round of the tri-series just past.
http://www.mylaps.com/results/showrun.jsp?id=1764560

Note Terry Fitzgeralds times

Also note Jason Hulmes times on an NC30.

I don't think I've seen a sub 1:19 on a 400 that isn't wanked.

**Dodgy** · 4th March 2011, 09:02

Originally Posted by crazy man

l lied about the lap times for the time 10 years ago it was more like 1.24's around manfeild and tiers were better..they did the same times as what a 150 has done today! so they were sad riders!

I dont believe those times at all. What times was Nathan Spargo doing on his ZXR400 around 10 - 12 years ago?

**wharfy** · 4th March 2011, 09:15

Originally Posted by roogazza

I can't imagine anyone quoting lap times at all, unless they are the record holder or very close, just makes them look sad.
Agreed, not fair to compare with past anyway, who does that.

Me but I have to go back to the 60's to find comparable times