Petrol price up to a new high ($2.16)

[Toaster]

I could earn the same salary in AUD living in Australia as I earn here in NZD, so the question is do I want to pay $1.47/L from my pay for fuel or $2.19/L

Apples and Oranges. Aussie and NZ have very different tax systems, there are costs you get here that you don't get there and vice versa etc and so on and so forth. It is actually very complicated to compare the two.

When someone can earn a significantly HIGHER income in Aussie than over here it is only then that you know you are on a winner immigrating to the West Island.

It would be good to see proper stats on cost of living to income ratios to help us all see just how relatively well or not so well off we are.

[Drunken Monkey]

Apples and Oranges. Aussie and NZ have very different tax systems, there are costs you get here that you don't get there and vice versa etc and so on and so forth. It is actually very complicated to compare the two.

When someone can earn a significantly HIGHER income in Aussie than over here it is only then that you know you are on a winner immigrating to the West Island.

It would be good to see proper stats on cost of living to income ratios to help us all see just how relatively well or not so well off we are.

True, there are things like higher top tax rates, however this doesn't kick in until $160,000 over there. Groceries and fuel in the 'burbs is generally cheaper. Housing can be more expensive in Sydney and Perth especially. Aussie pies are shit, there's no denying that. You have compulsory super, but it is always shown as "plus super" on the base salary in job ads. Aussie assembled cars are cheaper. Imports vary greatly, from cheaper to a lot more expensive. Flies are definitely worse over there, and their ants bite. Angry little fuckers. Ice from petrol stations was more expensive over there than here. City pubs seemed more expensive, but country ones seemed cheaper. Melbourne public transport is great, IF you live near the city or a train line. Otherwise it's rubbish. Think Auckland commutes are bad? Try driving into the the Sydney CBD from Paramatta every day. Brisbane's gone through growing pains and grid locks around 7:00am (at least from the South). Clothes are cheaper, and you get more choice.

That's just off the top of my head.

You can get a lot of variation, it's such a big place.

[scumdog]

True, there are things like higher top tax rates, however this doesn't kick in until $160,000 over there. Groceries and fuel in the 'burbs is generally cheaper. Housing can be more expensive in Sydney and Perth especially. Aussie pies are shit, there's no denying that. You have compulsory super, but it is always shown as "plus super" on the base salary in job ads. Aussie assembled cars are cheaper. Imports vary greatly, from cheaper to a lot more expensive. Flies are definitely worse over there, and their ants bite. Angry little fuckers. Ice from petrol stations was more expensive over there than here. City pubs seemed more expensive, but country ones seemed cheaper. Melbourne public transport is great, IF you live near the city or a train line. Otherwise it's rubbish. Think Auckland commutes are bad? Try driving into the the Sydney CBD from Paramatta every day. Brisbane's gone through growing pains and grid locks around 7:00am (at least from the South). Clothes are cheaper, and you get more choice.

That's just off the top of my head.

You can get a lot of variation, it's such a big place.

And don't forget gun ownership rules in Aussie. I think they're still allowed one or two Gov't approved rifles/shotguns - but no semi-autos or pump-action mind.

And difficulty in running a modified vehicle on the streets too, a lot more restriction on the ones that ARE allowed, for most they can't use them for daily use as per NZ.

[Maha]

Marsden point is a refinery. You might find they don't ship from their directly to the end service stations. They probably only ship to distribution points, and I wouldn't be surprised is the nearest distribution point is Auckland.

Also Gull imports their fuel, and doesn't use the refinery. Caltex probably does use the refinery.

So there are lots of reasons why the price of those two might be different.

It realise they pipe all fuels from Marsden to Wiri and its trucked on from there.

[mashman]

Question: What would happen to NZ if say, oil was two hundy plus a barrel, and petrol was $3.50/l, for 4 months? 6 months? What would you do in response?

Buy a fookin good lock for the petrol cap of the car and take up syphoning as a night time hobby

[Gremlin]

I think i would probably freak out

I'm sure someone more violent than I would get angry/homicidal, and give the companies warning messages by shooting someone

AU$ 1.479 / L in Brisbane at the moment. That's like a million south pacific pesos, innit? Or NZ$1.94 / L.

Don't forget the NZ tax take on petrol is what, over half the price now? What's the AU tax take on a litre?

About 66% of my riding is pleasure... this ain't gonna slow me down yet. In fact, the new bike is more fuel efficient than most, able to go below 5L/100km if you really want it to...

[Swoop]

Don't expect it to come back down very soon.
Lybian oil has had the western oil workers scarper out of the country very quickly. The eastern part of the country has had rebel victories and they are being aided, very quietly, by Egyptian commandos. The old regime isn't going down without a fight and tuareg are being signed up as mercenaries on gaddafi's payroll. Even mugabe has pledged support to the idiot.

[Usarka]

And the NZ dollar is going to tank for a myriad of reasons which will make it (and other imports) more expensive.

Well I'll be damned if I'll use Wellingtons comical train system, so might have to cut back on the red wine to keep the commuter on the road.

That's why I brought a home brew kit. Tonight's tipple is Usarka's Amber Ale

[MSTRS:Me]

I'll complain at $4 a litre, let's hope by then there are some decent breakthroughs in electric/alternative energy technology.

One of those is on the cards around about...um...er...ooooh...about next Thursday.

[awa355]

Geez, I'm glad petrol has gone up in price, I just hated running the bike on that cheap shit.

How long before the service stn's go to prepay all day instead of at nights?

[Whynot]

How long before the service stn's go to prepay all day instead of at nights?

a lot already are ...

[mashman]

Don't expect it to come back down very soon.
Lybian oil has had the western oil workers scarper out of the country very quickly. The eastern part of the country has had rebel victories and they are being aided, very quietly, by Egyptian commandos. The old regime isn't going down without a fight and tuareg are being signed up as mercenaries on gaddafi's payroll. Even mugabe has pledged support to the idiot.

BP may argue that

[MSTRS:Me]

Argue what? That report is from last Friday.

[jafar]

interesting that everyone has jumped on the petrol increase but not one comment on the diesel increase. It is the diesel that will kill us in the longer term as everything gets moved in diesel powered transport

[Toaster]

interesting that everyone has jumped on the petrol increase but not one comment on the diesel increase. It is the diesel that will kill us in the longer term as everything gets moved in diesel powered transport

It will certainly contribute to it. Food is earmarked to ride in price as our two supermarket chains use it as an excuse to price gouge yet again.

The petrol companies make a fortune, so do the supermarkets, insurance companies and the banks. They simply pass their costs on and squeeze our ever shrinking wallets even more. All we do is simply take it from them.

All I do is buy less and less...

... I should start losing weight this way...