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    National slashing bureaucratic jobs

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-65-job-losses

    Saving us up to $10million... or so they say.

    Good shit though, exactly what I was hoping the government was going to do, now I want to see much more

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    Riiight, so you want to see more from less? The more jobs that are lost the more poor old Joe Bloggs has to do. Guess what, it won't make him work any faster, quite the opposite in fact....
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    Yeah, sounds great in theory, streamlining public service waste etc.

    However, that's 65 people who now need to find a new job and may be the main wage earner for their family. I'm not saying that jobs should be kept for the sake of it, but in my experience, Government "streamlining" often just cuts jobs that aren't in the public eye, not necesserily one's that don't need doing. It may well be that the remaining staff now just have an increased workload, while the Government boasts about the savings they've made coming up to an election. But then again, I am a cynic where Governments are concerned !

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    Quote Originally Posted by admenk View Post
    However, that's 65 people who now need to find a new job
    Maybe it'll be one that actually generates revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Maybe it'll be one that actually generates revenue.
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    Cheaper on the dole than paying people a salary... however you cut it, that's what it is. It also costs every worker in NZ approx $4 per week to keep those people in work. That's a huge saving right there... 10,000,000 between 65 people = $153846.15... they get paid damn well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    they get paid damn well too.
    Really ? As well or better than their counterparts in the private sector ?

    There are a very broad range of jobs being cut - pretty sweeping statement to suggest they all get paid well. Or do you know something I don't ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    Really ? As well or better than their counterparts in the private sector ?

    There are a very broad range of jobs being cut - pretty sweeping statement to suggest they all get paid well. Or do you know something I don't ?
    heh, not at all. Just doing some average numbers... same way the govt do
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    penny pinching, to make real savings non essential services need to go

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    The problem is it will be front line staff that are cut, no biggie you might think, but you need to also think about the roles these folks play. MFish protect (as much as you would think its an impossible task) our fisheries this is a muti billion dollar per year industry, over the years many of the vessels plying trade along our coasts have become foreign owned, some of these have been caught by chance dumping fish over the side, Link, when there has been no observer present, these are exactly the staff we need but will loose.

    The other think is MAF, now these folks are responsible for our bio security at the border, front line staff have been cut and now we have varroa mite decimating out bee populations again a multi million dollar per year business, (this has other ramifications for our nation), we have canker hitting our kiwi fruit, while it does not damage the fruit countries we export to could easily deny access for that product on the basis it may carry the bacteria.

    There are other services that have seen front line cuts, that have ongoing ramifications for our nation, if things are not managed carefully the decline towards NZ being a poor pacific nation rife with corruption and possibly just a larger version of the Fijian regime will happen, then I wonder how many folks who are sitting out there going hey this is a good idea will be refuges trying to get to Australia. Hell its nearly possible for foreign criminals to purchase citizenship now.

    Remember these two agencies were many years ago one, the reasons they were separated are still valid, how about re-tasking the back room staff to front line and instead of so many team leaders (ha there's a redundancy waiting) doing so little the staff actually report to managers.
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    It will never happen but wonder how much would be saved if number of politicans was reduced and politicans could only claim airfares if a current member of parilment
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickle View Post
    It will never happen but wonder how much would be saved if number of politicans was reduced and politicans could only claim airfares if a current member of parilment
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMemonic View Post
    MFish protect (as much as you would think its an impossible task) our fisheries

    The other think is MAF, now these folks are responsible for our bio security
    I understand that MAF, MFish and NZFSA are all to merge. Communications departments within each will be disestablished and one unit formed.

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    Plenty of fat appeared over the 9 years of liarbour.
    Get rid of the bullshit paperwork and then you do not need a person to shuffle said paperwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Health service. 3 paper pushers per hospital bed?
    There's more administrators than clinical staff isn't there ?
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