Ken Ring's predicted earthquake for 20 March?

[dipshit]

So we can conclude currently the tidal force is irrelevant for prediction of earthquakes, and will be for the foreseeable future. It reaffirms what I stated, Ken Rings bullshit is exactly that.

Exactly. This is why Ken Ring did not and could not have predicted the big Japan earthquake, as it is a matter of plate tectonics and stress build-up.

Like our alpine fault. They know it has gone off every 250 to 300 years. We have had countless moon cycles since the last one in 1717. The important factor and one we need to understand more is plate tectonics and stress build-up.

[dipshit]

Actually wouldn't the pre requisite for stress to exist rule out the likely hood of this having the effect claimed it was going to in Christchurch as most of the energy stored has been released, and now we are currently in a re settling phase.

Yes and no. Overall stress is being relieved, but at the same time it could be loading up other areas because of the resettling. This is why the magnitude of the aftershocks keep getting less and less over time.

[Swoop]

http://www.suite101.com/content/new-...hquake-a203688

Scientists have been watching New Zealand's Alpine Fault in great detail for several decades. While it is impossible to predict just when the next big one will occur, there is certainty that it will happen, and geologically speaking quite soon.

In other words "we have no idea when, but will tell you after it happens" & "thanks for all the taxpayer's money we have spent".

[JMemonic]

Scientists have been watching New Zealand's Alpine Fault in great detail for several decades. While it is impossible to predict just when the next big one will occur, there is certainty that it will happen, and geologically speaking quite soon.

In other words "we have no idea when, but will tell you after it happens" & "thanks for all the taxpayer's money we have spent".

Pretty much but I suspect if the tax payer was not paying for the research no one would, I really cant see a financial motivation to fund this science.

[mashman]

So we can conclude currently the tidal force is irrelevant for prediction of earthquakes, and will be for the foreseeable future. It reaffirms what I stated, Ken Rings bullshit is exactly that.

Or we could conclude that until geologists can measure where the high stress areas are at any given moment in time (plate tectonics or not), then we can't say wether there is a relevance of the moon and it's phases in regards to earthquakes, let alone measure the influence (as well as the other planetary bodies). Which could, by default, also mean that geologists are just as full of shit as the Ringo kid

[Oakie]

Which could, by default, also mean that geologists are just as full of shit as the Ringo kid

At least the Geologists admit they don't know rather than continuing with a discredited theory.

[mashman]

At least the Geologists admit they don't know rather than continuing with a discredited theory.

I'd hardly say discredited. I'm not saying it's a perfect science. But geologists can't measure stress on the planet. Pressure and time? No pressure, plenty of time Anyhoo, not a perfect science and potentially one that was discarded and misunderstood once upon a time. There's also other planetary bodies to take into consideration, especially that large glowing ball of gas that affects our weather dramatically. I'd rather say unproven (to 100%)... but then meteorologists can't predict tornado's, or get the weather wrong sometimes, or get the landfall position of a hurricane wrong and they've been studying and funded up the wazoo. I'd like to see the moon/sun etc... people get some money to research their science for a while... Much more likely to yeild results I woulda thought.

[Flip]

Yes and no. Overall stress is being relieved, but at the same time it could be loading up other areas because of the resettling. This is why the magnitude of the aftershocks keep getting less and less over time.

Man I love techno twaddle and pseudo science, stop trolling. Ken Ring is a soothsayer, he is looking to animal entrails to predict the future. There is no statistical relationship between earth quakes and the phases of the moon.

I hope that all the poor stressed out Christchurch people now see him and his ilk for the buggers they are.

[scissorhands]

As a surfer, full moon clear nights and large south swells with light southerly quarter winds are to be expected, even tropical cyclones that come down are timed with the moon. Add perigee and in this case autumnal equinox and the expectation of a significant natural event will increase.

Why not earthquakes too?

Ken Ring is castings his jewels before swine.

Remember when I started a thread July 2010 re natural disasters? Why then at that time did I start this thread. What, why or whom prompted me? It was a prediction based on no scientific data, except a gut feeling. I was ridiculed totally!!!

How many of us are invisibly guided to act?

How often do we each predict things, without an appreciation of our own powers of prophecy??? And then the abuse of the messenger starts again...

I predict hog calling will become more popular as time in front of that great edeucator 'the telly' ticks down.

Gods favourite children are in for a big surprise

[admenk]

wouldn't it be refreshing, just once, to have something in this world that not even the experts claimed to understand..

[Oakie]

Why not earthquakes too?

Physics basically. Compare the tiny weight of individual molecules of water to the massive weight of subterranean seas of solid rock. Moon can influence individual molecules of water which have freedom to move but not vast slabs of rock which are stuck in place by the immense pressure that lies below.

Ken Ring is castings his jewels before swine.

His 'jewels' are but rhinestones and plastic kids baubles. (Poetic huh?)

EDIT. No, the kids aren't plastic. Their baubles are. Should have written "...kids' plastic baubles". Don't tell Hitcher huh?

[Indiana_Jones]

Actually it was religious dogma that said those things. It was the method of science that proved otherwise.

The point i was trying to show was that it went against conventional wisdom of the time as far as most people were concerned

The church and science is a different matter entirely.

Who knows, in 500 years time people will be reading how the governments of the world gagged scientists from speaking the truth about global warming or the colour purple....

I'm not saying I agree with Ken Ring's theory, but he shouldn't be abused or burnt at the stake for having a different theory or take on the matter.

-Indy

[dipshit]

In other words "we have no idea when, but will tell you after it happens" & "thanks for all the taxpayer's money we have spent".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_...Major_ruptures

I would say knowing when it went in the past and how strong goes a long way towards preparing for the next one. Building codes and contingency plans that have already been put in place for a response to the next one will save lives.

Perhaps if more people listened to what the scientists were predicting years ago, Chch might have been more prepared...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkTy6ogLDX8

[idb]

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I'm not saying I agree with Ken Ring's theory, but he shouldn't be abused or burnt at the stake for having a different theory or take on the matter.

-Indy

I don't agree...the responsible thing to do would be to keep quiet until, through observation or experiment, he was confident that his theories are sound.

[ellipsis]

wouldn't it be refreshing, just once, to have something in this world that not even the experts claimed to understand..

...there is. I married her..