Ken Ring's predicted earthquake for 20 March?

[AllanB]

Good point - but I bet there are still thousands in CHCH who do not have stored water etc even now!

[steve_t]

I wonder if the moon affects volcanic eruptions

http://tvnz.co.nz//national-news/tau...uption-3639510

[Banditbandit]

No. and the comparison is egregious towards Galileo. Remember this is before the Enlightenment. the church controlled everything. Galileo, by the application of the scientific method, came to a conclusion which was at odds with the church, but which was factually correct (and thus his riposte "Yet still, it moves").

Ring's "science" and "method" is based on faulty incorrect and faith based premise: In your analogy the criminal Ring is the church. It is testament to our progress in the last few hundred years that the criminal Ring is now firmly in the minority.

Yes, I agree. We now post-Enlightenment

However, I think people put a lot of faith in "the scientific method" - have you read Feyerabend's book Against Method? An interesting take on the scientific approach from a Philosophy of Science PoV and quite different from Popper or Kuhn

In regards to people like Ring, the scientific establishment act much like the church did. Now, sometimes they are right. But what if, in Ring's case, they are wrong?

A lot of what he says is garbage, I agree. What if he has a kernel of truth in his earthquake ideas?

Not that I'd hold my breath over his predictions ...

[scissorhands]

No. and the comparison is egregious towards Galileo. Remember this is before the Enlightenment. the church controlled everything. Galileo, by the application of the scientific method, came to a conclusion which was at odds with the church, but which was factually correct (and thus his riposte "Yet still, it moves").

Ring's "science" and "method" is based on faulty incorrect and faith based premise: In your analogy the criminal Ring is the church. It is testament to our progress in the last few hundred years that the criminal Ring is now firmly in the minority.

Have you ever considered a good dose of anal sex for the bad monkeys inside of you? I know a good priest who can roger that

[george formby]

Yes, I agree. We now post-Enlightenment

However, I think people put a lot of faith in "the scientific method" - have you read Feyerabend's book Against Method? An interesting take on the scientific approach from a Philosophy of Science PoV and quite different from Popper or Kuhn

In regards to people like Ring, the scientific establishment act much like the church did. Now, sometimes they are right. But what if, in Ring's case, they are wrong?

A lot of what he says is garbage, I agree. What if he has a kernel of truth in his earthquake ideas?

Not that I'd hold my breath over his predictions ...

Up to a point he does, t'scientific community only accepted Plate Tectonics in the 50's I think, well, very recently & shortly after a "crack pot" was proven right that PT is ONE of the main influences of weather patterns on a grand scale.

It amazes me that scientific research is still reported in the singular, the solution, the cure etc when it is obvious that what ever you look at is connected to something else, predicting earthquakes is probably harder than predicting the weather, all the influences have to be taken into account & we do not know all the influences. Gravitational pull? Why not? It's big enough to contribute but I very much doubt cause an earthquake, the proverbial straw.

[ellipsis]

...not up with quantum physics...any fucking physics, for that matter...but i think that Stephen Hawking is a fantastic example of science being so far out there..incomprehensible to a mere chippy like me...but readily believable...although it all seems to be so far beyond proving...one of his theories on exploding black holes has just been added to by a bloke Visser...a kiwi...

..a loose quote by Visser.."we would have to be very unlucky for a black hole to drift into our solar system and explode"...


...I think we should be very very very worried...and if it just happened to be a full moon, we would never see that black hole sneak in, in time to even kiss are arse goodbye as we all got sucked through the event horizon...moon and all...ohh fuck...what to do now...

[AllanB]

WTF - now someone is claiming that we will all be sucking black holes?

I'll have to Google 'sucking black holes' to keep informed .

[dipshit]

I'll have to Google 'sucking black holes' to keep informed .

[Jantar]

... the moon MIGHT well affect tectonic plates

Oh, it does. However the effect has been measured and is rather minor. Its a bit like switching on an additional light bulb to heat your room in the middle of winter. That additional 100 W does have an effect, but is small compared to the 2kW heater you've already got running.

As has already been mentioned by someone in a previous post, the primary driver is the amount of stress that has built up within the fault.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

WTF - now someone is claiming that we will all be sucking black holes?

I'll have to Google 'sucking black holes' to keep informed .

ghey... must be a honda thing.... tada boom

[The Stranger:Me]

Have you ever considered a good dose of anal sex for the bad monkeys inside of you? I know a good priest who can roger that

So i take it you enjoyed your time a choir boy.

[imdying]

3 days late, and still nothing. Come on Ring, where's this statistically significant seismic event or whatever it was supposed to be?

Comparisons to Galileo are completely flawed... he said he was correct of course, but the important difference was that he could actually demonstrate he was right.

Perhaps he should go back to telling fortunes from cats paws?

[oldrider]

I wonder if the moon affects volcanic eruptions

http://tvnz.co.nz//national-news/tau...uption-3639510

And this "scientific" report is "less" scaremongering than Rings?

Who gives a shit, they are all just interesting concepts etc.

It's not even compulsory to read it, let alone to believe it and be "afraid"!

The only one who can give you permission to be afraid is yourself!

Personally, I like this kinda stuff.

[shrub]

3 days late, and still nothing. Come on Ring, where's this statistically significant seismic event or whatever it was supposed to be?

Comparisons to Galileo are completely flawed... he said he was correct of course, but the important difference was that he could actually demonstrate he was right.

Perhaps he should go back to telling fortunes from cats paws?

My plastic Jesus is blutacked to the ledge above my door and my plastic Jesus is more powerful than Ken Ring, so I've trumped his sorry ass.

Plastic Jesus: 1
Ken Ring: 0

[Banditbandit]

...I think we should be very very very worried...and if it just happened to be a full moon, we would never see that black hole sneak in, in time to even kiss are arse goodbye as we all got sucked through the event horizon...moon and all...ohh fuck...what to do now...

We may well be in a black hole now - my understanding is that the gravitation field of a black hole so distorts time that a millisecond become an eternity ... we would never know we were in one ... so why worry?