Why are we still wasting time with this loser?

[shrub]

Basically, I agree. The benefit of the death penalty is that it removes any future problems .. i.e. they can't kill again.

Here's an interesting ethical problem - how do you know someone will kill again?

And shouldn't we make prevention a priority, so why not find people who are statistically most likely to commit a certain crime and remove their ability to offend before they offend? I have a friend who knows a lot about the subject (he's a psychologist working for corrections) and says that there are some people that at about age 9 or 10 he can predict with chilling accuracy their future criminal behaviour.

So imagine a scenario where we collect those people and either euthanise them, castrate them, isolate them, retrain etc. Interesting concept, hey?

[Dave Lobster]

As for the death penalty my very un-PC opinion is that if you look at all the evidence from every place where the death penalty is used it does absolutely nothing to prevent crime and is actually extremely expensive - the numbers vary, but generally most studies from the US find that it usually costs more than life without parole.

It needn't though.

But who decides who should live and who should die?

A jury of twelve people that do not have an imaginary friend.


Alternatively, the public. Anyone that decides to put on any form of gang patch, or is a member of a 'gang' organisation (for which the sole purpose of existence is to commit crime - and I include the church in that description) has made that decision to be on the 'hit' list.

[shrub]

It needn't though.


A jury of twelve people that do not have an imaginary friend.


Alternatively, the public. Anyone that decides to put on any form of gang patch, or is a member of a 'gang' organisation (for which the sole purpose of existence is to commit crime - and I include the church in that description) has made that decision to be on the 'hit' list.

Interesting - would that include HOG members who are planning to speed or drink and ride? And what exactly is a gang patch?

And have you ever been on a jury?

[Number One]

The only way we are safe from such people is if they are DEAD ... faulty hardwiring in the brain is a reason - not an excuse ...

Kiddiefuckers? - bullet in the brain ...
Rapists? - bullet in the brain ...

Once the link has been made between rape and orgasim or kiddies and orgasim they are gone ..no cure ...

Some soberingly true shit there.

How do seemingly well adjusted, loved and liked people get to that point where they make 'that' link? Have we figured out a way to see them getting there before they 'make it'.

How do you catch that rationalisation process mid stream and BREAK it...

Bullets only prevent 'further' harm...that is not without it's merit and I support however, from where I'm sitting that feels a little too much like ambulance and bottom of the cliff stuff.

No Bailey what's his name crunchie bar in my life...so how does an idol fall this far from grace?

Anyone know the answers please share for everyone's benefit

[Indiana_Jones]

Shoot the worthless cunt muscle and be done with it.

Edit: I lie, Bring back Pierrepoint for a good old hanging

-Indy

[Dave Lobster]

And have you ever been on a jury?

Goodness me, no. I've got a brain. And something to do in the daytime.
(I'm also not allowed to do jury service)

[shrub]

Goodness me, no. I've got a brain.

I'm sure you have, and it was an excellent idea to tell us and end all confusion. So when does your sentence finish?

(I'm also not allowed to do jury service)

Looking at the Department of Justice website, that means:

• you have a physical disability
• your health, family commitments, or other personal circumstances do not allow you to attend

.

Or:

You cannot serve on a jury if any of the following circumstances apply to you:
• some people with certain occupations cannot serve on a jury, e.g. employees of department of Corrections
• people with intellectual disabilities cannot serve on a jury
• people who:
- have been sentenced to imprisonment for life or for a term of three years or more, or to preventive detention - have been sentenced to imprisonment for a term of
three months or more, in the last five years.

So which applies to you? Are you a prison warden, sick, intellectually disabled, in prison or recently released?

[Smifffy]

Are there residency/citizenship requirements?

[Indiana_Jones]

Are there residency/citizenship requirements?

I think you have to be a PR. I'm not a citizen and I've been called up.

-Indy

[Laava]

I know a young guy who is heading down the road to prisondom at the moment in an ever decreasing spiral. The problem is caused directly by drugs and alcohol. In spite of having an upbringing that was not ideal, it is directly the drugs and alcohol that is responsible.

[oldrider]

I know a young guy who is heading down the road to prisondom at the moment in an ever decreasing spiral. The problem is caused directly by drugs and alcohol. In spite of having an upbringing that was not ideal, it is directly the drugs and alcohol that is responsible.

"True" but it is "he who is responsible" for taking the drugs and alcohol.

It is his decision to take them and his alone!

No use blaming everyone and everything else!

Hello real world!

[Smifffy]

"True" but it is "he who is responsible" for taking the drugs and alcohol.

It is his decision to take them and his alone!

No use blaming everyone and everything else!

Hello real world!

What real world? Where?

[Laava]

"True" but it is "he who is responsible" for taking the drugs and alcohol.

It is his decision to take them and his alone!

No use blaming everyone and everything else!

Hello real world!

Oh yeah that is my point, had he no access to drugs and alcohol things would be very different. And I bet the same could be said for BJK in spite of his appalling updragging

[Dave Lobster]

Oh yeah that is my point, had he no access to drugs and alcohol things would be very different. And I bet the same could be said for BJK in spite of his appalling updragging

Removing people's access to something for their own good is what communism is all about, isn't it?

Everyone has access to drugs or alcohol. Not everyone blames them for atrocious behaviour.

[Laava]

Removing people's access to something for their own good is what communism is all about, isn't it?

Everyone has access to drugs or alcohol. Not everyone blames them for atrocious behaviour.

I agree. It seems we as a society are powerless to control this situation