MNZ board nominations

[scott411]

only a tough choice if you cant tell diffrence between some one who does more for sport than line his own pockets in the guise of doing it for a club , oh slap my hand am i being unkind hell no just honest

very big statement to make from behind an Alias, man up and use a name will you, most of us that frequent here know the regulars,

for those that don't know me,

Scott Wilkins
President, Pukekohe Motorcycle Club,
supercross promotor (retired at this stage)
Grade 2 Steward,
MNZ Liceince holder since 1986

[prettybillie]

pretty billie .valid question .raises another why should the governing body bail out clubs when they dont in any other discipline .surely the clubs should be looking at new and innovative ways to make their events profitible,look at the tri -series, surely a model for other clubs to follow.
perhaps road race commissioner would like to comment

My question is not just about financial support - it's about support as a whole. How can the clubs run the meets profitable, what makes a good meet, how can we attract new members, what can be offered to assist in training the voluteers who help, how can we help clubs get a SOPS document together, do clubs need help with a marketing plan blah blah blah

Most of you already know me - but Leanne Thomas former AMCC member and current Vic Club member!

[watchman]

Why do you assume that? Did you assume Steve Bron was determined to oust Sandra Perry when he nominated JT 2 years ago?? What was his motive back then??

Andrew, must be Alzeimers son,names pat , rack your brains your"l remember.

selective memory is at work here i see ,lots of conversations lots of places all filled with vitriol re Jim Tuckerman,
god the power he must weld to evoke such a response.
did i say it was mnz No i saidyou and chris took club out ofmnz rather than produce accounts.
will i see a true copy filed on the friendly societys web page as all mnz clubs were required to do ,point me at it for last few years,

actually is the association working within its constitution,
didnt actually know you werent on kiwi biker because i only just joined pissed off with all the lies being touted as facts in pits here and in AUSTRALIA.

CHECK WITH JIM MATE YOUR RECORDS LIKE MOST THINGS WRONG HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER.
am i shouting yes i am

At time you mention re going south Paul stewart had a lot to do with road racing wasnt he commissioner ,wouldnt be impinging his reputation mate ,most honest man in motorcycling,

heard you made a dick of yourself at agm , you can protest all you like mate sour grapes have been festering for a long time,
pleased you confirmed what most people already knew you and chris were acting as private promotors without a license.

[scrivy]

Thanks for that Warren, you're so on the money!

Unfortunately, it doesn't astound me that we get these newbies (less than 2 posts) appear each time this shit rears it's ugly head. You can tell straight off which 'camp' they support, and they try really hard to discredit others with infactual information.
I see Mr Watchman hasn't come back with any truth or fact.
It's easy to post stuff on here, unfortunately you don't have to tell the truth, and again unfortunately alot of the lies stick, as most independent individuals on KB have no clue about what is being said with the inuendos mentioned!!

As for my nomination of Chris Lawrance - well, most of you will know Chris as being totally decent, motivated by nothing else but a genuine love of the sport, absolutely no hidden agendas, no financial gain for being MNZ President, and he wants to see ALL facets of motorcycle sport in this country excel! Most of you riders will have seen Chris around the traps at some stage, being at either Motorcross, Roadracing, Buckets, Speedway, Classics, Post Classics and even at the odd trailride, not to mention motorcycle shows and even club meetings/agms.

There are not many people in this world that give their all for no pecuniary gain or advantage. Chris is one of those special people. I support him 100% to improve the condition of MNZ as it stands. That can only be advantageous to all MNZ members/riders.

Scrivy

[watchman]

No i didnt assume steve bron was trying to oust Sandra Perry because i wasnt aware he was person who nominated Jim Tuckerman,
how ever in your case i would love to find any one in the know in mnz today who wasnt aware of your undying wish to remove the man who has pulled mnz into the modern world so its now operating like the professional organisation it should have been,
one always assumed sidecar racers were an intelligent lot but to be honest Andrew some of the shite you and chris have been circulating for years re Jim Tuckerman makes me embarassed i ever considered you both in a favourable light

sorry you can remember who i am, will give you something constructive to do for a change

[White trash]

Fuck me. It's all on here isn't it?

[Tony.OK]

Fuck me. It's all on here isn't it?

Yep...........................Deja Vu (that means seems familiar Jimmy )

[watchman]

very big statement to make from behind an Alias, man up and use a name will you, most of us that frequent here know the regulars,

for those that don't know me,

Scott Wilkins
President, Pukekohe Motorcycle Club,
supercross promotor (retired at this stage)
Grade 2 Steward,
MNZ Liceince holder since 1986

my my how defensive every one is,
theres a famous saying that those who are immediately defensive have something to hide.
No No No i am not hiding under an alias.
when i joined i filled out my profile i gave my name,it asked me what i wanted to log in as i gave a name,its not an alias its a family name, how was i to know that far from being an open minded ,bunch there was so much hype on controlling who every one was,
my motive is simple ,i think an election should be fought fairly,
i think everyone should be able to air their opinions ,apparently not.
im a hanger on in the pits a twister of spanners but i listen a lot.
what i hear highlights for me those who do the hard yards and those who are only interested in their own faction,
take it or leave it
anyone whose been around wanganui or mt wellington knows what im talking about

[scrivy]

Andrew, must be Alzeimers son,names pat , rack your brains your"l remember.

selective memory is at work here i see ,lots of conversations lots of places all filled with vitriol re Jim Tuckerman,
god the power he must weld to evoke such a response.
did i say it was mnz No i saidyou and chris took club out ofmnz rather than produce accounts.
will i see a true copy filed on the friendly societys web page as all mnz clubs were required to do ,point me at it for last few years,

actually is the association working within its constitution,
didnt actually know you werent on kiwi biker because i only just joined pissed off with all the lies being touted as facts in pits here and in AUSTRALIA.

CHECK WITH JIM MATE YOUR RECORDS LIKE MOST THINGS WRONG HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER.
am i shouting yes i am

At time you mention re going south Paul stewart had a lot to do with road racing wasnt he commissioner ,wouldnt be impinging his reputation mate ,most honest man in motorcycling,

heard you made a dick of yourself at agm , you can protest all you like mate sour grapes have been festering for a long time,
pleased you confirmed what most people already knew you and chris were acting as private promotors without a license.

Funny that MNZ office wouldn't give us a 'licence' when we asked them years before, them rather saying it wasn't necessary!! As a member of a club, we have full power to promote an event any which way we deem fit. If you check rule no. 4.12 There will be no restriction on affiliated clubs promoting events. Yes we were an affiliated club, so no contest. Also, can you PLEASE show me the clause that states no private sponsor is to bankroll an event. (Even Leanne on here says most clubs are crippled in running an event)
That is the reason you wank on about why we wouldn't show JT the figures. Do you think Suzuki NZ would show JT their accounts for sponsoring the Tri-series or Wanganui?
Get real!!

[scott411]

not really getting defensive, I just think its fair that people are upfront about who they are, i started this thread so people can get an idea of what the candidates stand for, so people can make an informed decision on who they want to vote for

by your posts making statements about Andy on Chris in this thread, it seems you have made up your mind on who you are voting for, (if you are a member of MNZ), you have accused them of making money out of something in the guise of a club run meeting, its a big call to make,

if you do not want to post your name, that's your call, but I think a hell of a lot less about opinion's and statements when they are done with out names attached, esp when they turn up just on these threads only at this time of year

[scrivy]

Scott,

Just so you, and others on here know, that our TRRS cost over $65,000 to run in the last year. Nearly 300 bikes at only $120 entry. You and others can do the math. As I've stated, I spent alot of my money for others for no gain, and Chris did too. We also started this event way prior to JT being where he is now. Mr Watchman just wants everyone to think we are out for revenge. He's an idiot that wants to discredit myself and Chris.
He obviously thinks he knows alot about stuff - but has obviously only been told what he should hear - not the actual truth!

Andy Scrivener

[White trash]

Yep...........................Deja Vu (that means seems familiar Jimmy )

Who you voting for you rotten old cocksucker?

Personally, I'm in two minds. Jim seems to have done quite some good for the sport during his time in office, and Chris is obviously a top fucken bloke.

What I'd like to see is clear and concise battle plans from each of the nominees as to what they plan to acheive and how they'll go about it. Similar to any election campaign. Recently, it seems that people just vote for who they like best which is a bit weird.

[watchman]

Thanks for that Warren, you're so on the money!

Unfortunately, it doesn't astound me that we get these newbies (less than 2 posts) appear each time this shit rears it's ugly head. You can tell straight off which 'camp' they support, and they try really hard to discredit others with infactual information.
I see Mr Watchman hasn't come back with any truth or fact.
It's easy to post stuff on here, unfortunately you don't have to tell the truth, and again unfortunately alot of the lies stick, as most independent individuals on KB have no clue about what is being said with the inuendos mentioned!!...

actually i dont totally support jim tuckerman either, minds not totally made up on that score and im not actually sure as a rider who only rides recreationally and is a club member but has no competition license that i could vote if i wanted to ,
see your making assumptions again
so if all is sweetness and light in sidecars, why is the association so keen not to have steve bron compete, in the interests of honesty,chris according to his profile gets on with every one???????
Kiwi biker is so interesting, where have you people been .
what has jim tuckerman achieved.
well a 200 000 k improvement in finances works for me .
introduced training for coaches and officials so we are all better protected under the law and up to date with methods ,cant be bad
retraining and introducing national standard for marshalls and stewards.also works for me .
got the industry back on side ,big plus
theres probably lots more that i dont know about,but one thing on his profile impressed. the bit about the office and board and others working as cohesive unit cant be bad for the members/rider

[wharfy]

Andrew, must be Alzeimers son,names pat , rack your brains your"l remember.

selective memory is at work here i see ,lots of conversations lots of places all filled with vitriol re Jim Tuckerman,
god the power he must weld to evoke such a response.
did i say it was mnz No i saidyou and chris took club out ofmnz rather than produce accounts.
will i see a true copy filed on the friendly societys web page as all mnz clubs were required to do ,point me at it for last few years,

actually is the association working within its constitution,
didnt actually know you werent on kiwi biker because i only just joined pissed off with all the lies being touted as facts in pits here and in AUSTRALIA.

CHECK WITH JIM MATE YOUR RECORDS LIKE MOST THINGS WRONG HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER.
am i shouting yes i am

At time you mention re going south Paul stewart had a lot to do with road racing wasnt he commissioner ,wouldnt be impinging his reputation mate ,most honest man in motorcycling,

heard you made a dick of yourself at agm , you can protest all you like mate sour grapes have been festering for a long time,
pleased you confirmed what most people already knew you and chris were acting as private promotors without a license.

I was at the AGM Andrew asked a number of questions - which is what the AGM is for isn't it ?

I also asked some - I was not convinced by the answers to any of mine or Andrews.

I didn't think either of us made "dicks" of ourselves.

Would you care to tell ME who you are ?

Kevin Waugh.

[watchman]

My question is not just about financial support - it's about support as a whole. How can the clubs run the meets profitable, what makes a good meet, how can we attract new members, what can be offered to assist in training the voluteers who help, how can we help clubs get a SOPS document together, do clubs need help with a marketing plan blah blah blah

Most of you already know me - but Leanne Thomas former AMCC member and current Vic Club member!

Pat here pretty billie
a lot of what you mention was i think covered at last agm.perhaps you could check with your club delegate,
certainly people i know ,am i required to list them in case anyone thinks they are invisible to ? came back buzzing,heaps of help offered, and seems to be same this year,last year judene from marlborough i think gave a brilliant one i hear on sponsership and obtaining it and looking outside the traditional square on sponsership,
theres been seminars for marshalls and stewards and im sure if you rang the office the ladies there could point you in direction of whats on offer.
why dont you ask the president re marketing plan and making an event,he operates an event company or his wife does.
in case the doubters panic i ran into them installing the bases{ie mall in Hamilton} christmas decorations last year,and thought the guy at the top of the scissor lift thing looked familar,asked a security guard who told me it was him.