Can you spot the motorcycle?

[brin_vg]

I could easily avoid having an accident on my bike by sitting at home and not going anywhere. That, fortunately, isn't the point.

[Bald Eagle]

GREAT SCOTT

Have they considered that increasing numbers of car users might also be contributing to our statistics? How about instead of worrying how many bikers are being injured, focus on the number of car drivers who run bikers down.

They are batting strictly to form and in true ACC fashion attacking the victims. viz a viz jax et all.

[Katman]

I don't think this is your intended message.

Part of my intended message has always been "put some thought into how an accident could have been avoided".

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

[avgas]

Motorcycle casualties have increased by almost 100% from 31^st December 2001 – 2008

Thank god I started riding before 2001. Otherwise I would definitely be dead. I mean there is no avoiding 100%.

Unless that figure is rubbish.

[oneofsix]

Part of my intended message is "put some thought into how an accident could have been avoided".

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

can't argue there except I think some moderation around reasonable actions. There are some that claim "there was nothing I could do" when in fact they were F'wits but when the rider has taken reasonable action or is just discussing contributing factors these discussions are also important. I feel it is also important we as a community look to minimizing these, after all it is the basis on which a lot of road works etc are done.
A car pulling an unsignalled u-turn in front of the bike doesn't leave the rider many options, as shown in Paraparaumu the other day the result is much the same when the following vehicle is a car except the turner is forced to stop.

[Bald Eagle]

Part of my intended message has always been "put some thought into how an accident could have been avoided".

"There was nothing I could do" is such a cop-out.

So tell oh wise one how did I not avoid the disqualified hit and run driver who came out of side road on SH 1 and hit me side on about level with my back wheel.?

Stay at home or catch the bus maybe.

[Katman]

So tell oh wise one how did I not avoid the disqualified hit and run driver who came out of side road on SH 1 and hit me side on about level with my back wheel.?

You should be asking yourself that question.

[oneofsix]

So tell oh wise one how did I not avoid the disqualified hit and run driver who came out of side road on SH 1 and hit me side on about level with my back wheel.?

Stay at home or catch the bus maybe.

you should have seen the car in the side road and moved over - oh you already had, well you should have increased your speed slightly - oh you were blocked with traffic, sprout wings maybe? No hi-vis vest would have saved you

See how easy the message gets lost.

Bald Eagle you did the right thing, you survived to ride again and ride safe.

[Bald Eagle]

you should have seen the car in the side road and moved over - oh you already had, well you should have increased your speed slightly - oh you were blocked with traffic, sprout wings maybe? No hi-vis vest would have saved you

See how easy the message gets lost.

Bald Eagle you did the right thing, you survived to ride again and ride safe.

and just by the by I was wearing hi-viz.

[MSTRS:Me]

and just by the by I was wearing hi-viz.

Stats will record rider was wearing Hi-Viz and survived.
ACC conclusion? Hi-viz = good.
Result? All bikers to wear Hi-viz.

[avgas]

So tell oh wise one how did I not avoid.........hit me side on about level with my back wheel.?

Ride a unicycle. There is only 1 wheel on those.

[Bald Eagle]

Ride a unicycle. There is only 1 wheel on those.

[Bald Eagle]

Stats will record rider was wearing Hi-Viz and survived.
ACC conclusion? Hi-viz = good.
Result? All bikers to wear Hi-viz.

stats will record rider had voted labour and survived
ACC conclusion voting labour = Good
result - everybody has to vote labour.

gotta love their logic.

[Oblivion]

stats will record rider had voted labour and survived
ACC conclusion voting labour = Good
result - everybody has to vote labour.

gotta love their logic.

Remember, the best kind of logic is always flawed. Thats what makes it good logic.

[ducatilover]

So what does Katman suggest one should do when someone hits you in a manner as previously stated? I'm interested, because this just recently happened to a mate in his car and he didn't survive to tell me how it could be avoided, so please, enlighten me as I live just over a Km from the where the fatal incident was and wouldn't like it to happen on my way to uni