MNZ board nominations

[Paul Searancke]

Without dragging up quotes (its just too hard) Billy asks the question"Who will work with Chris?" while convienently forgetting that upon the announcment of Jims Presidencey, a significant number of high ranking counsel from within MNZ tendered their resignation immediately because they were unable to work with him.
I am aware that several are looking forward to change so they can become involved again....

Two Commissioners resigned, one was Mo Perry the unsuccessful candidates husband, the other was Warren New and then Board member Trevor Heaphy(Paul Stewart was seconded to replace him until there was an election).
I have always thought and said that the sport is bigger than individuals and the successes since then have reinforced that to me.

Paul Searancke

[Tony.OK]

Attacking Biggles,Or pointing out he hasnt been on the scene long enough to really know the players involved here?Take it how you like

So those that haven't been on the scene are supposed to just guess at who to vote for?

One candidate gets a couple of pages and the other is only allowed 300 words? Seems kinda odd. Then all this "he said she said" nonsense...............

Whats a novice level member to do? I've not got a clue anymore

[scracha]

I asked a similar question earlier in this thread - and not surprisingly there was nill in the response dept. Righto - back to the Nats and sidcars............. because thats where its at...

I hear you bro. Another 5 or 6 pages of wrangling about who said what in 19canteen, and what sidecar rider blocked another sidecar rider, or what Scrivvy said to somethine ten years ago, or what Jim Tuckerman said to LG for their sponsorship. And why Kawasaki dropped their sponsorship. etc. etc .etc. etc

I don't give a fuck

PLEASE STOP IGNORING 99% of MNZ MEMBERS

For the love of fucking christ can someone at MNZ please tell me what the fuck they're going to do to improve things for club racers like moi. Yes, I'm a selfish cunt. I don't really give a flying fuck about "the Nationals".

I'll vote for whichever candiate gives a semi respectable answer to this question.

[Kickaha]

For the love of fucking christ can someone at MNZ please tell me what the fuck they're going to do to improve things for club racers like moi. Yes, I'm a selfish cunt. I don't really give a flying fuck about "the Nationals".

Ok you selfish cunt what do you think needs improving?

If you aren't doing Nationals don't you think that would be just as much for the club you race with not necessarily just MNZ?

[scracha]

Ok you selfish cunt what do you think needs improving?

Fuck...where do I start. Better promotion of the sport. Safecty co-ordinator/adviser for tracks (Hampton Downs is a joke). Perhaps managing to not have a month between events and then 3 roadrace events in the north island all on the same day. On-board bike cams. Decent web-site. Some sort of testing prior to getting a race license. Transport between nats meetings. Alignment of rules with other series. Better encouragement and conditions for international riders to come here. Look at Suzuki tri-series and TRSS for lessons that may be learnt. Better training and development for riders. Better treatment of sponsors. More incentment to actually do the nats.

If you aren't doing Nationals don't you think that would be just as much for the club you race with not necessarily just MNZ?

I don't really understand your question as it makes absolutely no sense ?

But back to my original point. As a "selfish cunt" representing the majority of racers -
What are they going to do to lower my costs?
What are they going to do to increase my enjoyment of the sport?
What are they going to do to improve my safety?
What assistance are they going to give me to imrpove my riding?

[Kickaha]

I don't really understand your question as it makes absolutely no sense ?

Well it did to me and possibly no one else in the world

Do you not think that is just as much up to the clubs to make the improvements you are asking for as much as MNZ

As for everything else, how much would you like to pay for entries and licenses?, it's got to be paid for by someone and chances are it will be us

[jellywrestler]

I'm a selfish cunt.

Too right there. Here's your post re the Cemetery Circuit 2009
No signage.
No water.
No electricity.
No rubbish bins.
No indication where to pit, park or get fuel (for some reason the BP about 50m from the pit area was closed...stupid stupid stupid).
No pit passes meant riders and support had trouble getting back into pits after going out to get food/fuel.
A pit area just too small for 250 riders.
A scrutineers shed up a slope (why the hell couldn't the scruts come to us instead of pushing bike, paperwork and gear up the slope?).
Inconsistent rider call outs (sometimes 5m, sometimes 15, PA system squalking "park in the shade and be ready to go".....err yeah mate...I'm gonna ride a street circuit on cold slicks).
No race program.
Massive amounts of previous entrants in the "virgin" practise.
Massive gaps between classes.
That I wasn't allowed to practise with F1 but top F1 guys were able to burgle the 600 practise (I guess it's who you know).
That superpole took a huge amount of time even though things were running massively late.
That each class had 2 x 4 lap practise sessions for some reason which wasted more time.
There were basically just far too many classes for the allocated time.

So what are your suggestions to MNZ to make your wishes come true re your post in this thread so the candidates can at least address your ideas and make comments on them? Or do you just want to be spoon fed and whine when it's not to your ideals?

[scracha]

Do you not think that is just as much up to the clubs to make the improvements you are asking for as much as MNZ

In a word, no. The national organisation should be giving the clubs direction. It could happen from the club level (hell, Vic Club and Canterbury have done massive improvements) but then what exactly is MNZ's purporse? TRRS and Suzuki Tri-series spanked the arse offf the Nats as far as I'm concerned. But I digress.

As for everything else, how much would you like to pay for entries and licenses?, it's got to be paid for by someone and chances are it will be us

Please explain how the majority of what I've suggested would have to be paid for via increased entries and licenses? That said, realistically the entries and licenses are a piss in the ocean compared to motorcycle, transportation and accommodation costs. I for one would happily pay about 4 times as much if at least half of what I've suggested could be implemented properly. I don't think the sponsors, riders or spectators get very good value for money. And yes, I am aware that its very easy to point the finger but very few people seem to have the balls to try something different.

I don't care what anybody else says. The Nats are clearly "broken". 99% of riders and support crew lose a fuck-load of money. The handful of spectators generally get a shit show. The sponsors clearly aren't happy. TV coverage is next to nil.

[scracha]

Too right there. Here's your post re the Cemetery Circuit 2009
No signage.
No water.
No electricity.
No rubbish bins.
No indication where to pit, park or get fuel (for some reason the BP about 50m from the pit area was closed...stupid stupid stupid).
No pit passes meant riders and support had trouble getting back into pits after going out to get food/fuel.
A pit area just too small for 250 riders.
A scrutineers shed up a slope (why the hell couldn't the scruts come to us instead of pushing bike, paperwork and gear up the slope?).
Inconsistent rider call outs (sometimes 5m, sometimes 15, PA system squalking "park in the shade and be ready to go".....err yeah mate...I'm gonna ride a street circuit on cold slicks).
No race program.
Massive amounts of previous entrants in the "virgin" practise.
Massive gaps between classes.
That I wasn't allowed to practise with F1 but top F1 guys were able to burgle the 600 practise (I guess it's who you know).
That superpole took a huge amount of time even though things were running massively late.
That each class had 2 x 4 lap practise sessions for some reason which wasted more time.
There were basically just far too many classes for the allocated time.

I make NO, ZERO, ZILCH apologies for that post. Most of my points were valid. And you know what....they actually listened. I'm not so egotistical to think they just listened to me. Many other riders and specators had issues with the event that year. But they made good positive changes and I wish them continued success in what is truly a unique and great New Zelaand event.

I'm not the type of guy who when served a shit meal in restaurant, bitches and whines to my dinner companions and every table within listening distance but donsn't have the ballsack to actually tell the restaraunter that their meal/serice isn't up to scrach.

So what are your suggestions to MNZ to make your wishes come true re your post in this thread so the candidates can at least address your ideas and make comments on them? Or do you just want to be spoon fed and whine when it's not to your ideals?

Listen buddy, I'm not standing as a candiate for MNZ Road Race commissioner. Wishes don't come true. I'm not expecting perfection. I'm merely asking them to acknowledge that the majority of their members are not racing in the nationals, and what simple measure they'd take to serve us. If I knew all the answers I'd have someone nominate me.

So far, MNZ appears to not even acknowledge 99% of its members.

[Biggles08]

Listen buddy, I'm not standing as a candiate for MNZ Road Race commissioner. Wishes don't come true. I'm not expecting perfection. I'm merely asking them to acknowledge that the majority of their members are not racing in the nationals, and what simple measure they'd take to serve us. If I knew all the answers I'd have someone nominate me.

So far, MNZ appears to not even acknowledge 99% of its members.

Scratcha, whilst I understand your sentiment, this is not 100% right IMHO. This is actually the main problem in NZ Motorcycling as far as I see it right now...nobody "WANTS" to race the national series because of all the reasons you said. If MNZ can fix the majority of these issues then club racers would have something to aim for and "WANT" to compete in and many issues would simply disappear at club level as more entries became apparent.

Its a chicken / egg scenario. In other words, you are saying "Fix the club level and the Nats will follow" whereas I firmly believe the opposite is required. "Fix the Nats and the club level will improve as racers have a clear goal to aim for...to compete against the best of the best"

To back this point up, Paeroa is a great example of having all sorts of people come out of the woodwork to compete at. Why do racers 'WANT' to race here? I would hazzard a guess its because they feel like a hero in front of that massive crowd (some of which will be their friends) that is guaranteed to be there. There is a 'want' for them to do it...this is what is lacking in the NZSBK series I believe.

I would like to see some changes by the president elected (or the current commission) to address this 'want' issue somehow...these are points I would like to hear as to if/how they plan to achieve this.

Chris Lawrance has already stated his plans to address this by:

1. Listening to the current National Level competitors and getting our input into how we see things.
2. reducing competitor costs via various methods (possible control tire, less rounds, limited practice time prior to each round etc (to reduce the gap between factory teams vs privateers)
3. Focusing on Increasing crowds and competitor numbers at each round to reduce entry fees (as he clearly has had experience with in TRRS)

I am interested to hear Jim Tuckermans ideas on this issue too.

[Deano]

One thing I'd like to see MNZ do more of is compulsory engine testing to check the top 3 bikes at the Nats are within the rules of the class, especially the production/stock classes. Safe, fun and fair......

It was rumoured to happen this year but I don't think it did. Perhaps a mobile dyno would be the simplest means ? And I'm not just wanking on, I've heard several stories about so called pro twin bikes now. Very disappointing.

Any comments from the candidates re this ?

[Biggles08]

Really Biggles,I wouldnt have thought you"d been invovled long enough to know whos in it for the love of the sport and which ones had the hidden agendas,

Guess only time will tell!

Well I'm of the extremely high opinion of myself (I should just end this post here eh?) that I can pick people pretty well on first impressions Billy...and so far in my short time on this planet my strike rate would be above 95% correct

However, whilst I do appreciate all the work that has been done in the past with MNZ and the motorcycling industry as a whole, sometimes people who have been involved for a long period in any organization tend to become a little 'shuttered' in their viewpoints and fresh opinions that are unbiased from years of in house bickering can have some positive outcomes. Like me or not, maybe keep your mind open to the possibility that some points i make may in fact have some merit

[Grumph]

Some comments arising out of the last few posts....

Motor stripping....been there performed that, but when you find a blatantly illegal motor, toss him out, and he's reinstated on appeal because the distributor declares that the mods would have made no difference....what do you do ?
At the time the rules are drafted there should be input from engine builders...some rule makers are both ignorant of the extent of rider ambitions and the realities of prepping a motor to last a season.
Nats riders versus Club level.....everyone's ambitions differ. I've struck guys who would only do the minimum club racing and lived for a National title....and those for whom club racing was as far as they'd go.
Once a NZ title meant something and was a useful door opener when the rider went overseas....is a title of any value now ?

[lostinflyz]

I hear you bro. Another 5 or 6 pages of wrangling about who said what in 19canteen, and what sidecar rider blocked another sidecar rider, or what Scrivvy said to somethine ten years ago, or what Jim Tuckerman said to LG for their sponsorship. And why Kawasaki dropped their sponsorship. etc. etc .etc. etc

I don't give a fuck

PLEASE STOP IGNORING 99% of MNZ MEMBERS

For the love of fucking christ can someone at MNZ please tell me what the fuck they're going to do to improve things for club racers like moi. Yes, I'm a selfish cunt. I don't really give a flying fuck about "the Nationals".

I'll vote for whichever candiate gives a semi respectable answer to this question.

whats wrong with club racing as it is that is something MNZ can fix/help????

MNZ issue a permit, train the stewards and thats about it for their involvment? Clubs take on the responsibility for running the show after that as far as i am aware.

[SWERVE]

The way i see it is that MNZ should just be the sanctioning body for all that legal / safety / official stuff.
Licences
Issuing of permits
Stewards/marshalls training
Corperate sponsorship
International stuff (not that road racing has much of that)
etv - etc

The clubs should run there respective series/events in a way that suits their membership base. Only having to deal with MNZ for the legalities

A promoter should run the national series / tri-series / streetraces.
A promoter who prime aim would be to high-light the sport - make meetings an event who would work with hosting clubs. Whos only interest is to make the promotion work (not to feather a hidden nest)

Junior development/training should be run by clubs or maybe a seperate operation .

I have been involved with racing for only 6yrs in NZ....... but over 20 in the UK prior to that. In the last 6 yrs i cant see where MNZ has really done anything really significant for our section of the sport.......... the clubs however are doing a great job i think.
As you were