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    another option to check correct float operation (not very precise for level measurements though) is to stick a tube and the carb drain and bring it round beside the carb, drain enough so that the tube has no air bubbles an you will be able to see the liquid height.

    It think the floats will be designed so that there can be a lot of tilt on the carb before the level the jets see changes significantly so I wouldn't worry about that.

    Not being able to kick it over at standstill make it a bit difficult to check for leaks, visual inspection and a tub of high temp silicon may be easiest just to ensure there is no chance of em at all!

    I don't have an abundance of plans this arvo so could probably come have a look if you're still having issues.
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    is the spark at the top of the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke, some engines allow you to make this mistake.
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    WELL.

    It runs.

    My buddy had the idea of jacking his car up to use the spinning front wheel, as a roller to spin the bike wheel. Worked a treat with some adjustment.

    We changed the standard Keihin carb, to a "KNG" knockoff. It made no difference. I thought maybe the timing was a few degrees advanced so I knocked it back. Made no difference.

    But after turning it over for ages with the chur bro car/roller, it coughed and backfired a few times, then it ran..

    The thing I noticed was inside the points cover there is a fair bit of dust after only a few minutes running. The points gap was set at about .35mm as is laid out in the xr manual.

    Throttle response is poos, so maybe there is a pin hole in my newly welded manifold. Also it has no airbox right now, so I will investigate that. I don't know what the jetting is like as this KNG carb main jet has no number on it. The standard GL carb is a little bigger so I'll put it back on tomorrow and see what happens. You can buy keihin jets off trade me for $7 each, so I may order a selection.. Unless someone in palmy has a few lying about ???

    Other wise I'm fuckin stoked. There is still some work to be done yet, but after having done everything on this bike myself, I am now seeing some result. Chur howard.

    To be continued.

    P.S cheers for all the suggestions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    is the spark at the top of the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke, some engines allow you to make this mistake.
    Not on this one. The points rotor is located on the end of the camshaft with a little key way.
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    haha, good work with the starter. I have a few different size mains #138 -#168 and some 45 pilots you can try if they are in the right range. But you should be able to get it idling all good by adjusting air screw and setting float heights etc. You got a condenser/capacitor on the coil? as it's job is to prevent points wear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    haha, good work with the starter. I have a few different size mains #138 -#168 and some 45 pilots you can try if they are in the right range. But you should be able to get it idling all good by adjusting air screw and setting float heights etc. You got a condenser/capacitor on the coil? as it's job is to prevent points wear.
    Far out, toooo big man. The stock GL jet is 105. I have a few jets turning up for my vfr but the smallest of those is 118..

    And yes there is a condenser.

    One of the funniest things about it is the amount of the wiring loom that is left. A wire that connects the points, the coil and part of the charging system (which will soon contain the push to kill switch) and a couple of earth wires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    (which will soon contain the push to kill switch)
    You might want to make that a switch to kill switch to stay inside the rules. Pedantry I know but most of the work I have done to our bikes has been to avoid any last minute bodgery if somebody gets anal at scrutineering at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Far out, toooo big man. The stock GL jet is 105. I have a few jets turning up for my vfr but the smallest of those is 118..

    And yes there is a condenser.

    One of the funniest things about it is the amount of the wiring loom that is left. A wire that connects the points, the coil and part of the charging system (which will soon contain the push to kill switch) and a couple of earth wires.
    thought that may be the case, I could almost just use a hose to get enough fuel to my 647cc of fury

    was actually thinking bout getting another #162, if you find a good supplier let me know.

    old school simple looms, easy to wire, easy to hotwire too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    You got a condenser/capacitor on the coil? as it's job is to prevent points wear.
    Not quite. Actually it's job is to form a resonant circuit with the primary winding of the coil when the points open. By luck it also reduces arcing across the points extending their life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk View Post
    You might want to make that a switch to kill switch to stay inside the rules. Pedantry I know but most of the work I have done to our bikes has been to avoid any last minute bodgery if somebody gets anal at scrutineering at some stage.
    Fair call. Switches of most kinds from dick smiths are around $4 I think. Should put a residential looking light switch on it for comedy value..

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    thought that may be the case, I could almost just use a hose to get enough fuel to my 647cc of fury

    was actually thinking bout getting another #162, if you find a good supplier let me know.

    old school simple looms, easy to wire, easy to hotwire too!
    How's this ?

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-369311253.htm

    On the Norton race bike, we have Amal size 700s on there. It's just a 500cc motor hahaha, ludicrous..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    How's this ?

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-369311253.htm

    On the Norton race bike, we have Amal size 700s on there. It's just a 500cc motor hahaha, ludicrous..
    That looks like it, cheap too, pity he doesn't have any 42 slow jets, I am suspicious that mine might be a bit worn... what the hell is a size 700? obviously not the same scale as what I use or it'd be 7mm diameter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    That looks like it, cheap too, pity he doesn't have any 42 slow jets, I am suspicious that mine might be a bit worn... what the hell is a size 700? obviously not the same scale as what I use or it'd be 7mm diameter!
    Did you check his other listings, I do remember seeing slow jets mentioned..

    I don't know how the amal jets are sized. But you wouldn't need to worry about them blocking unless you happened to pour gravel into your tank..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    Did you check his other listings, I do remember seeing slow jets mentioned..

    I don't know how the amal jets are sized. But you wouldn't need to worry about them blocking unless you happened to pour gravel into your tank..


    yeh he has a 40 and 45 no 42 though, think I've compensated good enough with the needle anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatch View Post
    WELL.

    It runs.

    You can buy keihin jets off trade me for $7 each, so I may order a selection.. Unless someone in palmy has a few lying about ???
    If you want to try a few sizes give me a yell.

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    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    If you want to try a few sizes give me a yell.
    Yes, please. Desperately.

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