MNZ board nominations

[Bykmad]

Originally Posted by Billy
Yip,On the money Paul,Is it not true also that Warren and Trevor made themselves available again almost immediately afterwards(Only to resign again after the Hampton Downs round of the Nationals earlier this year)?
Hi Billy,
As far as I am aware they didn't make themselves available after resigning, not even for a hand over briefing.

Paul Searancke

Paul. Get your facts right before you burst forth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you knew a few more facts you might understand the reasons behind my decisions.
When Del was appointed Stewards Commissioner, Jim rang and asked if I would help Del. I said YES. I have NEVER heard from Del.

[Billy]

Hi All,

Just had a call from Jim Tuckerman regarding his availability to answer questions regarding plans and any achievements at MNZ on this site.

The board have decided collectively not too post on this site as sadly they are misquoted and heckled by a select few,Therefore they will only spend more of their valuable time answering mindless,Sensless queries when they really need to be focussed on the job at hand (Their respective positions and tasks at MNZ).

He has asked me to convey to all those with concerns and queries too contact him at presidentmnz@ihug.co.nz where he will answer all relevant questions as quickly and accurately as is humanly possible.

Please remember,If this doesnt work out as you had hoped,DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER.

[White trash]

Paul. Get your facts right before you burst forth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you knew a few more facts you might understand the reasons behind my decisions.
When Del was appointed Stewards Commissioner, Jim rang and asked if I would help Del. I said YES. I have NEVER heard from Del.

Fuck me it's funny when the horses mouth becomes involved and totally shuts down an misinformed argument.

[Biggles08]

So Marcus,Morris,Maurice,Biggles,

Are able to answer this question for me today?Please dont take this as an attack,Rather Im just interested to hear how you'd react.

Which one of my personalities would you like to answer it?

I'm not sure what your point is with this question but yes you are correct I am not the type to sit back and watch the status quo. If I feel I can have some positive input as where I believe it should be, I will make some noise about it (much to the dislike of many on here i may add). In fact, that is what I'm doing here in this thread to a point. I do believe that Motorcycling in NZ is in a poor state considering our product. Maybe I am biased but I find motorcycle racing far more entertaining and 'viewer friendly' than most other forms of motor sports...and unfortunately we are not doing our own sport justice.

[Paul Searancke]

Originally Posted by Billy
Yip,On the money Paul,Is it not true also that Warren and Trevor made themselves available again almost immediately afterwards(Only to resign again after the Hampton Downs round of the Nationals earlier this year)?
Hi Billy,
As far as I am aware they didn't make themselves available after resigning, not even for a hand over briefing.

Paul Searancke

Paul. Get your facts right before you burst forth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you knew a few more facts you might understand the reasons behind my decisions.
When Del was appointed Stewards Commissioner, Jim rang and asked if I would help Del. I said YES. I have NEVER heard from Del.

Hi Warren,
As I said "As far as I am aware". I stand informed and corrected.

Paul Searancke

[scrivy]

Fuck me it's funny when the horses mouth becomes involved and totally shuts down an misinformed argument.

If you look back at my posts too Trashie, you'll see the same thing. Delivery of fact that dispels the bullshit from the very individuals that say we're bagging MNZ.

As per Billys post above, 'The board have decided collectively not too post on this site as sadly they are misquoted and heckled by a select few'

But the MNZ brigade distort and misquote - and quite frankly LIE! But that's ok, because they can, but they know they'll get whipped by the truth - as Bykmad has elaborated too.

If this thread has done anything, it's made everybody aware that if you are in a position of power, you must not abuse that power, and be honest, and accountable. You can rest assured, the truth will always come out.

As you were.

[Paul Searancke]

If you look back at my posts too Trashie, you'll see the same thing. Delivery of fact that dispels the bullshit from the very individuals that say we're bagging MNZ.

As per Billys post above, 'The board have decided collectively not too post on this site as sadly they are misquoted and heckled by a select few'

But the MNZ brigade distort and misquote - and quite frankly LIE! But that's ok, because they can, but they know they'll get whipped by the truth - as Bykmad has elaborated too.

If this thread has done anything, it's made everybody aware that if you are in a position of power, you must not abuse that power, and be honest, and accountable. You can rest assured, the truth will always come out.

As you were.

Scrivy,
Who are you accusing of lying?

Paul Searancke

[Billy]

Which one of my personalities would you like to answer it?
Why,The sensible one of course!

I'm not sure what your point is with this question but yes you are correct I am not the type to sit back and watch the status quo. If I feel I can have some positive input as where I believe it should be, I will make some noise about it (much to the dislike of many on here i may add). In fact, that is what I'm doing here in this thread to a point. I do believe that Motorcycling in NZ is in a poor state considering our product. Maybe I am biased but I find motorcycle racing far more entertaining and 'viewer friendly' than most other forms of motor sports...and unfortunately we are not doing our own sport justice.

The point to the question was,

In an earlier post you suggested I was holding Chris Lawrance completely responsible for the state sidecar racing is in at a National level.

My reply was,Not solely,However Im sure you would have to agree,That as a senior and obviously well respected member of the sidecar racing fraternity AND as I understand it (And Im sure I'll be corrected if Im wrong)Immediate past president of the NZSRA,By not competing at a national level in recent times or making an attempt too rectify the rift in the sidecar fraternity,He has in some way contributed to the state sidecar racing is in today at National level???

Is this how he intends to conduct himself as MNZ president?

[scrivy]

Scrivy,
Who are you accusing of lying?

Paul Searancke

Paul, go back and read the last 51 pages. Therein lies the truth.
You guys make a comment, but then can't back it up with FACT, then mis-quote what others say. Read the posts above. Bykmad made that quite clear.

I said i'll fall on my sword if I'm proven wrong. But haven't been proven wrong yet, and there's been alot of issues raised here.
So that makes your sides fabrication of stories on here absolutely worthless, and factless.


Scrivy

[Str8 Jacket]

I am still at a loss to understand how and why we are still living in the bloody past! Everyone has a past and everyone has fucked someone off at some point of their lives.

What I really want to know is WHO is wanting to put the past behind them and create a better environment. HOW they think that they will do that without anyone banging on about the past and WHY they want to do it. The past is in the past and the past certainly hasn't helped motorcycle racing in NZ to be great so far, has it.

[scrivy]

My reply was,Not solely,However Im sure you would have to agree,That as a senior and obviously well respected member of the sidecar racing fraternity AND as I understand it (And Im sure I'll be corrected if Im wrong)Immediate past president of the NZSRA,By not competing at a national level in recent times or making an attempt too rectify the rift in the sidecar fraternity,He has in some way contributed to the state sidecar racing is in today at National level???

Is this how he intends to conduct himself as MNZ president?

You crack me up Billy!!
Steve Bron resigned from the association, then went and did his own thing! Much to the disapproval of the rest of the NZSRA members. Promising Tuckerman that he'd have the numbers. But didn't! He, not Chris, has put the sidecars in the position they're in. But as I said earlier, the NZSRA sidecar members are growing and moving on with things.

[scrivy]

What I really want to know is WHO is wanting to put the past behind them and create a better environment. HOW they think that they will do that without anyone banging on about the past and WHY they want to do it. The past is in the past and the past certainly hasn't helped motorcycle racing in NZ to be great so far, has it.

Which is exactly what Billy keeps on about. He has a trouble with sidecars, and won't let it go. Trying to blame everyone but the perpertrator.

Chris Lawrance however, is over the 'Haves' in our class, and certainly cares more about our sport as a whole. That is why he doesn't talk about the past on here.

[Str8 Jacket]

Which is exactly what Billy keeps on about. He has a trouble with sidecars, and won't let it go. Trying to blame everyone but the perpertrator.

Chris Lawrance however, is over the 'Haves' in our class, and certainly cares more about our sport as a whole. That is why he doesn't talk about the past on here.

IMO this petty argument started a long time before Billy arrived. Again, don't really care that Mavis hates Betty cause Betty did this which meant Mable did that and then Super fucken gran came in and it goes on and on with no end. Much like THIS discussion.

Motorcycle racers are individualistic, eccentric and every single one of us is a bit nutty. That means that we don't all get along but at the end of the day someone has to be grown up and realise that things are going to change, for the better or the worse. At the end of the day the President has a vote but they also have a committee a president can be strengthened or weakened by them. Alot of us have no idea about either candidate and all this bitching and he said she said is nonsense, it makes younguns take it as a joke and that's where the racing future is, IMO.

This is not an attack on anyone, I am just sick of the bullshit!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Motorcycle racers are individualistic, eccentric and every single one of us is a bit nutty.

Who you calling nutty?

[Str8 Jacket]

Who you calling nutty?

You'd have to have nuts before I could call ya nutty mate!