ABS v Non ABS

[rastuscat]

Good vid to watch

http://multivu.prnewswire.com/mnr/bmw/49653/

[DangerMice]

I might just get me some of those outrigger wheels, might make lane splitting a bit more challenging I guess.

But seriously, wow, that works incredibly well.

[Hitcher]

I want a set of those outriggers.

[98tls]

All good i guess,maybe they could come up with another name for all this safety shit,no doubt sensible but for an old motorcyclist like myself it sounds as inviting as "safe sex".

[ducatilover]

I want a set of those outriggers.

As do I. They look seriously fun!

[steve_t]

Oh man! So do I want outriggers or ABS on my next bike?

[bogan]

I want a set of those outriggers.

No way, did you see how often the bike lost control with them on? The one without looked way safer

Front looked quite stuttery on the ABS runs, room for improvement perhaps?

[LBD]

I agree with the benefits of ABS as a rule, but I think this clip is an exaggeration in that any "competent" rider would ease on the front brakes gently in the wet rather than immediately lock up the front wheel to show the worst case scenario.

...then again mayb,e it aims to compare ABS with an incompetent rider...

[rastuscat]

I agree with the benefits of ABS as a rule, but I think this clip is an exaggeration in that any "competent" rider would ease on the front brakes gently in the wet rather than immediately lock up the front wheel to show the worst case scenario.

...then again mayb,e it aims to compare ABS with an incompetent rider...

Interesting. The assumption that someone can brake like an expert. You put the range of skills at expert or incompetent. Thing is, not everybody has the skills you purport to. I'd suggest that maybe 10% of riders are actually that skilled. Obviously including yourself, Oh Great One.

Of course, again, everyone will think they have the skills, until they actually have to prove they do. If you are that good, good on you, but most people greatly over-estimate their ability to ride.

IMHO.

[steve_t]

Interesting. The assumption that someone can brake like an expert. You put the range of skills at expert or incompetent. Thing is, not everybody has the skills you purport to. I'd suggest that maybe 10% of riders are actually that skilled. Obviously including yourself, Oh Great One.

Of course, again, everyone will think they have the skills, until they actually have to prove they do. If you are that good, good on you, but most people greatly over-estimate their ability to ride.

IMHO.

Yep. How many times do you hear of the scenario of a car pulling out from a side street and the rider panicking, grabbing a handful of front brake and either losing the front wheel or having to "lay her down". I'm all for ABS, TC, etc as long as they are able to be turned off IF the rider wants to

[ducatilover]

Of course, again, everyone will think they have the skills, until they actually have to prove they do. If you are that good, good on you, but most people greatly over-estimate their ability to ride.

IMHO.

I'd probably deck it emergency braking in the wet.... I have some bitchin' front end lock up problems under brakes on the CB Every now and then the wooden brakes seem to work and the suspension doesn't like it....

[ducatilover]

Yep. How many times do you hear of the scenario of a car pulling out from a side street and the rider panicking, grabbing a handful of front brake and either losing the front wheel or having to "lay her down". I'm all for ABS, TC, etc as long as they are able to be turned off IF the rider wants to

Exactly, we all love to think we are awesome, but, I've almost dropped it in the wet Car pulls out, brakes go on, front starts to lock up/dive under, let brakes off and go around car... Lucky day.

[NordieBoy]

So the moral is: Don't lock up your front brakes in the wet?

[Big Dave]

Oh man! So do I want outriggers or ABS on my next bike?

You want ABS. The systems (even the linked ones) have no effect on the vehicle till an emergency. Then they are invaluable.

Safe sex - yeah - my spinal column wouldn't be as fucked up if my bike had ABS.

If it's available on the bike you are looking at - get the ABS.

It should be switchable for a dirt bike.

[bogan]

http://www.conti-online.com/generato...ysteme_en.html I think that is what BMW uses now, not sure of the scale on those pressure control units, but reckon they would take some jiggering around to make em fit on a lot of bikes.

Get em small enough to mount under/behind the headlight bucket and you could sell a bunch of upgrade systems for older bikes I reckon.